• *.answers moderation?

    From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 27 22:46:55 2022
    Hi,

    Is there anybody still active in *.answers (and specifically
    news.answers) moderation? news-answers-request@mit.edu used to
    be the moderation contact address, but I've received no reply there.

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  • From Paul W. Schleck@21:1/5 to Thomas Koenig on Thu Dec 1 13:39:08 2022
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    In <tlve60$cnb$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:

    Hi,

    Is there anybody still active in *.answers (and specifically
    news.answers) moderation? news-answers-request@mit.edu used to
    be the moderation contact address, but I've received no reply there.

    I don't think that there has been any active moderation of the *.answers newsgroups in over a dozen years. I found my last reply, to
    news.groups, on this subject and quoted it below.

    My local news server at Panix has 90 days retention of the newsgroup,
    and shows about 20 unique articles. Examination of the headers suggests
    that they were all directly posted using self-approval from multiple independent news servers other than MIT.

    The *.answers newsgroups were not typical moderated newsgroups. The
    entire supporting moderation software was a complex infrastructure of
    article approval database, article validator, automated archiving of the newsgroup to an FTP server (mirrored by two web sites at Ohio State and faqs.org), and a periodic posting service for those submitters who could
    not directly self-approve. This was sponsored by the Student
    Information Processing Board (SIPB) at MIT, after being created by the
    original moderator, Jonathan Kamens. This infrastructure is not likely
    to still be active (you noted that you didn't get a reply). Even if it
    was still available, MIT likely does not have an NNTP news server
    anymore. My memory of the services were that they required a team of moderators to maintain, and it was relatively labor-intensive to do so.
    The original moderators are also not likely to return to active
    participation after over a dozen years, IMHO.

    Might want to back up a bit and consider what are your current needs.
    Do you wish to create an *.answers-crossposted FAQ? My recommendation
    is to just create one, confirm it complies with the submission
    guidelines below, and self-approve it via a direct cross-post with its
    home newsgroup(s). Do you wish to reactivate moderation of the
    newsgroup with a new team, possibly including yourself? It is possible
    to recruit new moderators, but the entire supporting infrastructure is
    likely to be overkill at this late stage of Usenet. At best, a new team
    would reactivate the periodic posting of the submission guidelines,
    provide an approval and oversight authority from new moderator
    submission and feedback addresses for the newsgroups, and not likely any auto-posting, validating, or archiving services.

    Good luck with your quest.

    Date: Fri Dec 3 16:52:06 2010
    From: pschleck
    Newsgroups: news.groups
    Subject: Re: Where are the *.answers groups up to?
    References: <4cf959b1$0$2540$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>
    Status: RO

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    In <4cf959b1$0$2540$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> "A B" <a@a.uk> writes:

    Can anyone tell me exactly what's happening with the *.answers groups? I
    see there are a few recently modified postings there, so obviously new >submissions can get through some of the time. But this was also the case >last time I tried to submit the alt.astrology FAQs, and I couldn't get a >reply at all. I'm just about to try again, but as I'm not too hopeful about >the result, I thought I'd post this while I remembered.

    The last known moderators of news.answers were David A. Lamb and Paul
    King.

    The most recent FAQ article to be crossposted to news.answers that I
    submitted was in September and for news.announce.important.

    The situation, frankly, appears to be one where submissions posted to
    news for approval from a newsreader, or sent to news-answers@mit.edu
    (the newsgroup submission address) go into a large backlogged queue of submissions intermixed with SPAM and off-topic articles (including user questions), where they wait indefinitely because the moderators are not currently able to work on the queue.

    Based on my recent experiences, the best way to get your article(s)
    approved currently would seem be to follow the submission guidelines at:

    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/news-answers/guidelines/

    submit the article(s) using your newsreader, or via E-mail to news-answers@mit.edu, then drop a short note to
    news-answers-request@mit.edu (so that your messages are recorded in
    their queues if there is a question later) CC'd to the personal E-mail addresses of David and Paul. David or Paul may reply and tell you that
    they are backlogged and not able to work on their large queue of
    submissions. They may be able to provide tentative approval for your article(s), or you can decide to proceed from their lack of objection.
    These steps are what I did to get my latest FAQ submission approved.

    I hesitate to post David's and Paul's personal E-mail addresses here,
    where they might get misused or harvested for SPAM. If you can drop an
    E-mail to my address below, I can send them to you privately.

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  • From Aaron M. Ucko@21:1/5 to Paul W. Schleck on Tue Dec 6 07:23:20 2022
    pschleck@panix.com (Paul W. Schleck) writes:

    MIT likely does not have an NNTP news server anymore.

    Can confirm. IIRC, a major hardware failure several years ago turned
    out to be the last straw. Sorry for any resulting inconvenience.

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