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    From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 22 18:49:29 2023
    Okak, so, here's what I think:

    The problem with GG is with how they've defined their SLOs - the 'happy
    user experience'. They think that being able to post 1000s of times an
    hour to a discussion formum is a good thing: it only matters that
    nothing fails to post - because that would be a negative user
    experience. If that happens then it'd automatically scale up (but,
    1000s/hour is nothing to GG - they could scale up; the reality is that
    they don't need to).

    Even if they did need to scale up, no alert will be generated, becuase
    that would be an interruption, and they've engineered that away, becuase dealing with tickets is a waste of an engineers time. There will be no dashboard at GG that has gone amber, let alone red. It's all green and
    happy at GG.

    So, fundamentally: The issue is that being able to post 1000s of
    times/hour to a forum, be it usenet or an GG 'group', is not a good
    thing at all: no discussion/debate can possibly happen that fast. So,
    their SLO is fundamentally wrong.

    Not that that helps at all. It just explains why GG has done, and will
    do, nothing about it.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Sun Oct 22 22:46:56 2023
    On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 18:49:29 +0100, Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
    Okak, so, here's what I think:
    The problem with GG is with how they've defined their SLOs - the 'happy
    user experience'. They think that being able to post 1000s of times an
    hour to a discussion formum is a good thing: it only matters that
    nothing fails to post - because that would be a negative user
    experience. If that happens then it'd automatically scale up (but, >1000s/hour is nothing to GG - they could scale up; the reality is that
    they don't need to).
    Even if they did need to scale up, no alert will be generated, becuase
    that would be an interruption, and they've engineered that away, becuase >dealing with tickets is a waste of an engineers time. There will be no >dashboard at GG that has gone amber, let alone red. It's all green and
    happy at GG.
    So, fundamentally: The issue is that being able to post 1000s of
    times/hour to a forum, be it usenet or an GG 'group', is not a good
    thing at all: no discussion/debate can possibly happen that fast. So,
    their SLO is fundamentally wrong.
    Not that that helps at all. It just explains why GG has done, and will
    do, nothing about it.

    holding a seance using a ouija board at midnight during a full moon just
    might work when all else fails, but short of that there is no discussion

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to nospam.harnden@invalid.com on Mon Oct 23 00:22:51 2023
    In article <uh3nba$2ijal$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Harnden <nospam.harnden@invalid.com> wrote:
    Okak, so, here's what I think:

    The problem with GG is with how they've defined their SLOs - the 'happy
    user experience'. They think that being able to post 1000s of times an
    hour to a discussion formum is a good thing: it only matters that
    nothing fails to post - because that would be a negative user
    experience. If that happens then it'd automatically scale up (but, >1000s/hour is nothing to GG - they could scale up; the reality is that
    they don't need to).

    Even if they did need to scale up, no alert will be generated, becuase
    that would be an interruption, and they've engineered that away, becuase >dealing with tickets is a waste of an engineers time. There will be no >dashboard at GG that has gone amber, let alone red. It's all green and
    happy at GG.

    So, fundamentally: The issue is that being able to post 1000s of
    times/hour to a forum, be it usenet or an GG 'group', is not a good
    thing at all: no discussion/debate can possibly happen that fast. So,
    their SLO is fundamentally wrong.

    Not that that helps at all. It just explains why GG has done, and will
    do, nothing about it.

    Hence why UDP Google Groups!
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Mon Oct 23 07:26:22 2023
    On 10/22/23 12:49, Richard Harnden wrote:
    So, fundamentally: The issue is that being able to post 1000s of
    times/hour to a forum, be it usenet or an GG 'group', is not a good
    thing at all: no discussion/debate can possibly happen that fast.  So,
    their SLO is fundamentally wrong.

    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and will
    do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.
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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 23 13:49:31 2023
    Le 23/10/2023 à 14:26, candycanearter07 a écrit :

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    There always has been non-Google spammers, with scripts or whatever.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Mon Oct 23 14:04:08 2023
    In article <uh5ope$34avm$3@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 10/22/23 12:49, Richard Harnden wrote:
    So, fundamentally: The issue is that being able to post 1000s of
    times/hour to a forum, be it usenet or an GG 'group', is not a good
    thing at all: no discussion/debate can possibly happen that fast.  So,
    their SLO is fundamentally wrong.

    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and will
    do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!

    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to conanospamic@gmail.com on Mon Oct 23 14:04:44 2023
    In article <s3RlnaB9LGFV0716P6oi5mEAV10@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 23/10/2023 à 14:26, candycanearter07 a écrit :

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    There always has been non-Google spammers, with scripts or whatever.

    And they get filtered with the rest of the spamtrollers!
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  • From D@21:1/5 to noel on Sat Oct 28 04:08:37 2023
    On 28 Oct 2023 11:48:52 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:04:08 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and
    will do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!

    Blocked google a week or so ago now, our usenet-abuse-desk email has
    fallen so silent, I sent a test message last night to make sure it still >worked :)
    ahhhhhhhhhh peace and quiet.

    if this keeps up, little old me will have to find some other line of
    work, they say basket weaving can be quite relaxing ... or gardening

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  • From noel@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Oct 28 11:48:52 2023
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:04:08 +0000, The Doctor wrote:



    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and
    will do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!


    Blocked google a week or so ago now, our usenet-abuse-desk email has
    fallen so silent, I sent a test message last night to make sure it still
    worked :)

    ahhhhhhhhhh peace and quiet.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to deletethis@invalid.lan on Sat Oct 28 02:42:55 2023
    In article <653c6884$1@news.ausics.net>, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote: >On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:04:08 +0000, The Doctor wrote:



    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and
    will do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!


    Blocked google a week or so ago now, our usenet-abuse-desk email has
    fallen so silent, I sent a test message last night to make sure it still >worked :)

    ahhhhhhhhhh peace and quiet.

    Indeed!

    BTW

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7122352592692658177%2C7122915621796818945%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287122915621796818945%2Curn%3Ali%
    3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177%29

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 28 02:43:16 2023
    In article <63c5150408c9fe530bea8baf78eb4b05@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On 28 Oct 2023 11:48:52 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:04:08 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and
    will do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!

    Blocked google a week or so ago now, our usenet-abuse-desk email has
    fallen so silent, I sent a test message last night to make sure it still >>worked :)
    ahhhhhhhhhh peace and quiet.

    if this keeps up, little old me will have to find some other line of
    work, they say basket weaving can be quite relaxing ... or gardening


    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7122352592692658177%2C7122915621796818945%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287122915621796818945%2Curn%3Ali%
    3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177%29
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    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen When we want to believe on our own terms, divisions will abound. -unknown https://mindspring.com

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  • From noel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 28 12:54:37 2023
    On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:08:37 +0200, D wrote:

    On 28 Oct 2023 11:48:52 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:04:08 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

    Not that that helps at all.  It just explains why GG has done, and
    will do, nothing about it.

    There's no way a news client would refresh fast enough to sustain
    that.

    Exactly why a UDP no GG is being called for!

    Blocked google a week or so ago now, our usenet-abuse-desk email has
    fallen so silent, I sent a test message last night to make sure it still >>worked :)
    ahhhhhhhhhh peace and quiet.

    if this keeps up, little old me will have to find some other line of
    work, they say basket weaving can be quite relaxing ... or gardening

    lol

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