• Another new release another major regression

    From Sailfish@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 7 23:39:00 2021
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools errand.
    It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile but it
    launches that profile in another instance of the current browser which,
    in turn, converts the other older profile file entries to the new
    browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No warning that
    this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been removed. That Mozilla
    makes changes to their new browser versions is to be expected but to
    implements features that ruins other older profiles is ridiculous!

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to this is what Sailfish on Mon Mar 8 07:47:17 2021
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile but it
    launches that profile in another instance of the current browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries to the new
    browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability to import
    from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is to be expected
    but to implements features that ruins other older profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 8 14:11:51 2021
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries
    to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No
    warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is
    to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for a
    long time?

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  • From WaltS48@21:1/5 to Big Al on Mon Mar 8 08:58:53 2021
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries
    to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No
    warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is
    to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I guess.

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  • From Cruz, Jaime@21:1/5 to Wilf on Mon Mar 8 09:47:46 2021
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries
    to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No
    warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is
    to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I
    guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for a
    long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version to
    the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used to.
    The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the
    bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.


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  • From Sailfish@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 8 08:53:17 2021
    My bloviated meandering follows what WaltS48 graced us with on 3/8/2021
    5:58 AM:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries
    to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No
    warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is
    to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I
    guess.

    Nope. Fx52.9esr. Even so, Firefox (or any software for that matter)
    should not corrupt or change a selected profile but use read-only.

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  • From Sailfish@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 8 08:57:58 2021
    My bloviated meandering follows what Cruz, Jaime graced us with on
    3/8/2021 6:47 AM:
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries >>>>> to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No >>>>> warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is >>>>> to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I
    guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for
    a long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version to
    the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used to.
    The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the
    bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.

    Ref: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/bookmarks-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct

    I can confirm this. That's what led me to this article and then,
    incorrectly trusting, it's new corruption-prone method of importing old
    profile bookmarks.

    WARNING: Do not use this new method on 52.9esr profiles or risk corruption!

    --
    Sailfish
    CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
    Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg

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  • From Big Al@21:1/5 to Jaime on Mon Mar 8 11:46:20 2021
    On 3/8/21 9:47 AM, this is what Cruz, Jaime wrote:
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile
    but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries >>>>> to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No >>>>> warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability
    to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is >>>>> to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks I guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for a long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version to the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used to.
    The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.


    Favicons are in the favicons.sqlite file.

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  • From Sailfish@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 8 09:15:49 2021
    My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 3/8/2021
    8:57 AM:
    My bloviated meandering follows what Cruz, Jaime graced us with on
    3/8/2021 6:47 AM:
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile >>>>>> but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries >>>>>> to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No >>>>>> warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability >>>>>> to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is >>>>>> to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks
    I guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for
    a long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version to
    the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used to.
    The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the
    bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.

    Ref: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/bookmarks-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct


    I can confirm this. That's what led me to this article and then,
    incorrectly trusting, it's new corruption-prone method of importing old profile bookmarks.

    WARNING: Do not use this new method on 52.9esr profiles or risk corruption!

    I found what seems to be an acceptable, yet ironic, workaround.
    1. Open Microsoft Edge
    2. Import 52.9esr bookmarks into Favorites
    3. Exit Edge and bring up latest Fx
    4. Import Edge-saved Fx52.9esr Favorites into Fx86.x

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  • From Sailfish@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 8 09:46:58 2021
    My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 3/8/2021
    9:15 AM:
    My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 3/8/2021
    8:57 AM:
    My bloviated meandering follows what Cruz, Jaime graced us with on
    3/8/2021 6:47 AM:
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile >>>>>>> but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file
    entries
    to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser
    use. No
    warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability >>>>>>> to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been >>>>>>> removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is >>>>>>> to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older >>>>>>> profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks
    I guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used
    for a long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version
    to the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used
    to. The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the
    bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.

    Ref:
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/bookmarks-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct


    I can confirm this. That's what led me to this article and then,
    incorrectly trusting, it's new corruption-prone method of importing
    old profile bookmarks.

    WARNING: Do not use this new method on 52.9esr profiles or risk
    corruption!

    I found what seems to be an acceptable, yet ironic, workaround.
    1. Open Microsoft Edge
    2. Import 52.9esr bookmarks into Favorites
    3. Exit Edge and bring up latest Fx
    4. Import Edge-saved Fx52.9esr Favorites into Fx86.x

    Added benefit. Above method also easily imports 52.9esr passwords which
    had been prevented somewhere around Fx75.x.

    Lastly, if extra cautious, delete imported bookmarks (Favorites) and
    passwords from Edge. Note! If one uses Edge with other passwords and
    bookmarks, this method will remove them, too. So, back them up before
    importing Fx bookmarks/passwords and restore afterward. Since I don't
    use Edge, this is not a problem.

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    Sailfish
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  • From Cruz, Jaime@21:1/5 to Big Al on Wed Mar 10 12:08:59 2021
    On 3/8/21 11:46 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 9:47 AM, this is what Cruz, Jaime wrote:
    On 3/8/21 9:11 AM, Wilf wrote:
    On 08/03/2021 13:58, WaltS48 wrote:
    On 3/8/21 7:47 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/8/21 2:39 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
    The new bookmark features makes management of bookmarks a fools
    errand. It allow importation of lost bookmarks from another profile >>>>>> but it launches that profile in another instance of the current
    browser which, in turn, converts the other older profile file entries >>>>>> to the new browser formats and ruins it for the older browser use. No >>>>>> warning that this will occur, of course. It also strips the ability >>>>>> to import from a bookmarks.html file, so even that route has been
    removed. That Mozilla makes changes to their new browser versions is >>>>>> to be expected but to implements features that ruins other older
    profiles is ridiculous!

    What version of Firefox???

    Any older version that doesn't use places.sqlite to store bookmarks
    I guess.


    Those must be pretty old versions. Hasn't places.sqlite been used for
    a long time?


    I've discovered if I try to copy places.sqlite from the ESR version to
    the rapid release version it doesn't copy over as well as it used to.
    The most immediate symptom is that all of the "favicons" in the
    bookmarks are lost but there have been other oddities as well.


    Favicons are in the favicons.sqlite file.

    Interesting. Never noticed that file before. It's not used by Palemoon
    (which probably explains why places.sqlite is so much bigger in Palemoon
    than it is in Firefox).

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