Sailfish wrote on 3/27/2021 6:42 PM:
My bloviated meandering follows what Chris Ilias graced us with on >>3/27/2021 1:11 PM:
[]*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
I wasn't sure, but that actually is a newsgroup! (Or was at some time.)If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where
you can find Firefox support. If not, try >>>netscape.public.mozilla.browser.
This has been a pleasant place to visit and I enjoyed most of the+1
people I've had the pleasure to engage with. But, as with Archie,
Veronica, Jughead, Powwow, Finger, Whois and other unprofitable
nascent technologies, eventually the time langoliers devour them and
only leave faint memories for those old timers who had experienced
them until even those find a resting place in the wikipedia catacombs.
Sailfish wrote on 3/27/2021 6:42 PM:
My bloviated meandering follows what Chris Ilias graced us with on+1
3/27/2021 1:11 PM:
*WHAT IS HAPPENING*This has been a pleasant place to visit and I enjoyed most of the
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).
*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3
*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not
appear.
Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and
you will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.
*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.
If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages
before the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.
*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support
If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.
*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for
many years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down
and moved to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.
*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo
chat room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org
My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias
people I've had the pleasure to engage with. But, as with Archie,
Veronica, Jughead, Powwow, Finger, Whois and other unprofitable
nascent technologies, eventually the time langoliers devour them and
only leave faint memories for those old timers who had experienced
them until even those find a resting place in the wikipedia catacombs.
Is there any reason why we can't just migrate the existing names to the outside usenet, rather than creating new alt.* ones? I know it would be
a new top-level whatever, but other such exist, such as demon.*
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Is there any reason why we can't just migrate the existing names to
the outside usenet, rather than creating new alt.* ones? I know it
would be a new top-level whatever, but other such exist, such as demon.*
I think it would take a person who has some real "usenet clout" to pull
that off ...
I think it would take a person who has some real "usenet clout" to pull
that off ...
Andy Burns wrote:
I think it would take a person who has some real "usenet clout" to
pull that off ...
It's going to take more more than one person.
You're going to need Usenet server operators to update their actives
file. Coordinating that will be an up hill battle.
Is there any reason why we can't just migrate the existing names to the outside usenet, rather than creating new alt.* ones?
On 3/28/2021 5:52 PM, Ken Blake wrote:[]
On 3/28/2021 3:59 PM, BillH wrote:
"alt.comp.mozilla.thunderbird" sounds good to me. Maybe alsoSame for me.
"alt.comp.mozilla.firefox". If something like this is set up I would
move their gladly rather than use the official support forums.
Let me add I'm also not interested in using anything but a newsgroup. I
want to use Thunderbird for all "forums," and not two or more programs.
I make a single exception for the Microsoft Windows forums, but I'm not
happy about that, and I'm much less active than I used to be when they
were newsgroups. I think the Microsoft web forums are terrible
designed; newsgroups are much better.
John Weiss wrote:
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s,
it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s,
it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then "thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote >>>> (my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s,
it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
On 03-Apr.-2021 12:47, The Real Bev wrote:
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote >>>>> (my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s, >>>>>> it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can you be >>>> more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
You need to click on "New Groups" then click on "Refresh" and they will
show.
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s,
it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s,
it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
**THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**Does this include Newsgroups? I thought GigaNews never charged a penny
On 03-Apr.-2021 12:47, The Real Bev wrote:But if they are read-only .... they are unusuable ...
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s, >>>>>> it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can
you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
You need to click on "New Groups" then click on "Refresh" and they
will show.
EnDeeGee wrote on 03-04-21 18:53:
On 03-Apr.-2021 12:47, The Real Bev wrote:But if they are read-only .... they are unusuable ...
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s, >>>>>>> it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can
you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
You need to click on "New Groups" then click on "Refresh" and they
will show.
On 4/4/21 5:44 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
EnDeeGee wrote on 03-04-21 18:53:
On 03-Apr.-2021 12:47, The Real Bev wrote:But if they are read-only .... they are unusuable ...
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> >>>>>>> wrote
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.)
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s, >>>>>>>> it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
I just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then
"thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can
you be
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
You need to click on "New Groups" then click on "Refresh" and they
will show.
Why are they read-only?
WaltS48 wrote on 05-04-21 01:58:
On 4/4/21 5:44 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
EnDeeGee wrote on 03-04-21 18:53:
On 03-Apr.-2021 12:47, The Real Bev wrote:But if they are read-only .... they are unusuable ...
On 04/03/2021 09:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/3/2021 12:24 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
On 4/3/2021 9:44 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 09:08:07, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> >>>>>>>> wroteI just tried "subscribe" too e-s and searched for "firefox" then >>>>>>> "thunderbird". Found forums for both but they are French. So can >>>>>>> you be
(my responses usually follow points raised):
John Weiss wrote:They're on e-s now. (F and TB anyway - I haven't looked for S.) >>>>>>>
Not yet on astraweb or eternal-sep.
I've requested on both, I'm not an astraweb user, but I am on e-s, >>>>>>>>> it'll take time especially as it's Easter ...
more specific about "They're on e-s now." What is "They"?
I think,
alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.softwarw.seamonkey
I just refreshed the E-S list. Not shown yet. This is weird...
You need to click on "New Groups" then click on "Refresh" and they
will show.
Why are they read-only?
It's OK, I just subscribed to alt.comp.software.seamonkey and I can post
...
I did not find the post where a guy said that they are read-only.
In addition all of the mozilla.* groups here on this server are been read-only if you want to use another NNTP access such as aioe.
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see posts
made on 3 April.
The Real Bev wrote on 6/4/21 2:36 pm:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by SailfishYes, indeed, an honour for time immemorial!!
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
(Just wanted to make this post to "correct" your spelling, Bev!! ;-P )
The Real Bev wrote on 6/4/21 2:36 pm:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by SailfishYes, indeed, an honour for time immemorial!!
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
(Just wanted to make this post to "correct" your spelling, Bev!! ;-P )
On 04/06/2021 12:25 AM, Daniel wrote:
The Real Bev wrote on 6/4/21 2:36 pm:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by SailfishYes, indeed, an honour for time immemorial!!
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
(Just wanted to make this post to "correct" your spelling, Bev!! ;-P )
Thanks for the favour!
Op 6-4-2021 om 11:19 schreef Jeff Layman:
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see
posts made on 3 April.
I made the last post on m.s.firefox on April 3 at 15.37 (CET).
Wayne Mery made the last post on m.s.thunderbird on April 3 at 18.48 (CET).
Rink
On 06-Apr.-2021 03:25, Daniel wrote:
The Real Bev wrote on 6/4/21 2:36 pm:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by SailfishYes, indeed, an honour for time immemorial!!
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
(Just wanted to make this post to "correct" your spelling, Bev!! ;-P )
Depends which country you're from.
Honour (British/Canadian English)
Honor (American English)
Rink wrote on 6/4/21 9:45 pm:
Op 6-4-2021 om 11:19 schreef Jeff Layman:
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish >>>> and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see
posts made on 3 April.
I made the last post on m.s.firefox on April 3 at 15.37 (CET).
Wayne Mery made the last post on m.s.thunderbird on April 3 at 18.48
(CET).
Rink
Were they direct to the newsgroups or were they via the lists??
Op 6-4-2021 om 11:19 schreef Jeff Layman:
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by Sailfish
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see posts
made on 3 April.
I made the last post on m.s.firefox on April 3 at 15.37 (CET).
Wayne Mery made the last post on m.s.thunderbird on April 3 at 18.48 (CET).
On 04/06/2021 04:45 AM, Rink wrote:Sailfish
Op 6-4-2021 om 11:19 schreef Jeff Layman:
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made byÂ
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see
posts
made on 3 April.
I made the last post on m.s.firefox on April 3 at 15.37 (CET).
Wayne Mery made the last post on m.s.thunderbird on April 3 at 18.48
(CET).
Mea culpa. I had TB set to see only new messages and I had read the
newer ones previously. Or something.
At any rate, yahoo is shutting down yahoo answers and deleting the archives. Coincidence? I don't think so...
On 4/7/21 10:53 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 04/06/2021 04:45 AM, Rink wrote:Sailfish
Op 6-4-2021 om 11:19 schreef Jeff Layman:
On 06/04/2021 05:36, The Real Bev wrote:
Last posts to the FF and TB groups on April 2 were made by
and Jeff Layman, respectively.
An honor, of sorts...
And one I can't claim! I posted on 2 April in m.s.t, but I can see
posts
made on 3 April.
I made the last post on m.s.firefox on April 3 at 15.37 (CET).
Wayne Mery made the last post on m.s.thunderbird on April 3 at 18.48
(CET).
Mea culpa. I had TB set to see only new messages and I had read the
newer ones previously. Or something.
At any rate, yahoo is shutting down yahoo answers and deleting the
archives. Coincidence? I don't think so...
Never heard of it.
Did they have Firefox and other Mozilla apps support?
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