• Why is Firefox Nagging for Rentry of its Primarry Password

    From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 15 08:54:47 2021
    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but
    in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 15 18:07:18 2021
    On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:53:55 +0100, ? Good Guy ? <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:

    On 15/08/2021 08:54, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but >> in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

    You don't need a password to use Firefox. What are you talking about?

    This question was only aimed at Firefox users who understand the Primary Password feature. Have a nice day.

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    On 15/08/2021 08:54, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

    You don't need a password to use Firefox. What are you talking about?

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/08/2021 08:54, Anthony R. Gold
    wrote:<br>
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    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but
    in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?
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    <p>You don't need a password to use Firefox. What are you talking
    about?<br>
    </p>
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YiSBHb29kIEd1eSDwn5iJ?@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Sun Aug 15 20:35:42 2021
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    On 15/08/2021 18:07, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    This question was only aimed at Firefox users who understand the Primary Password feature. Have a nice day.

    I was responding to anybody who has some intelligence to post a sensible question that explains what the actual problem is. There are no
    passwords requirements in Firefox. Now try again!


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/08/2021 18:07, Anthony R. Gold
    wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
    cite="mid:86iihg5oa54ib55moctge2rt3br45leu4o@4ax.com">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">This question was only aimed at Firefox users who understand the Primary
    Password feature. Have a nice day.
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I was responding to anybody who has some intelligence to post a
    sensible question that explains what the actual problem is. There
    are no passwords requirements in Firefox. Now try again!<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Mon Aug 16 14:06:58 2021
    Anthony R. Gold wrote:

    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

    The dialogue still states it will only ask for the primary (aka master) password once per session.

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Aug 16 15:40:19 2021
    On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:06:58 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Anthony R. Gold wrote:

    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but >> in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

    The dialogue still states it will only ask for the primary (aka master) password once per session.

    Thanks and that's the behavior I both expected and wanted. But recently FF seemed to be asking me to re-enter the Primary Password every few minutes.

    As an experiment I followed some directions related to interference from the certificates of a couple of security packages (even though I use neither AVG nor Eset). So far so good.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-keeps-asking-me-primary-password

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk on Tue Aug 17 18:09:28 2021
    On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:40:19 +0100, "Anthony R. Gold"
    <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

    As an experiment I followed some directions related to interference from the certificates of a couple of security packages (even though I use neither AVG nor Eset). So far so good.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-keeps-asking-me-primary-password

    A new data point - I was not asked to re-enter it again until exactly
    midnight. Let's see if that is part of a pattern.

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  • From clay@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Wed Aug 18 15:57:49 2021
    Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?

    I recall similar behavior in the past.

    Firefox would prompt for the master password when I visited various
    sites which required login, before the page would open.

    Message boards, etc. which remembered my login (didn't require login
    every visit) would prompt before loading.



    It appears to me the Moz devs have reduced the instances where Firefox
    prompts for the master password.

    Since 78.9.0esr I do not get a master pw prompt when visiting pw
    protected message boards, etc..

    When I log in to a webmail account (yahoo.com) I do get a prompt for
    master password.

    However, Firefox remembers that master password entry after I shut it
    all down and go home.

    Next day, open Firefox and log into webmail.
    *No prompt for master password.*

    If I remember to log out of webmail before shutting down, I'll get a
    prompt next visit.

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  • From Mahem Jadhav@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 24 02:59:51 2021
    On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 10:24:02 PM UTC+5:30, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
    On 15/08/2021 08:54, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    Firefox used to ask for its Main/Primary Password only once after statup but in recent updates it appears to be asking periodically. Do I have any
    control over this behavior?
    You don't need a password to use Firefox. What are you talking about?
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    With over 1.3 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

    even I am worried why it prompting us for the password without any new window/ tab is being open...
    Should we move out from firefox passwords

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YiSBHb29kIEd1eSDwn5iJ?@21:1/5 to Mahem Jadhav on Tue Aug 24 18:49:05 2021
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    On 24/08/2021 10:59, Mahem Jadhav wrote:
    even I am worried why it prompting us for the password without any new window/ tab is being open...
    Should we move out from firefox passwords

    I don't store passwords in Firefox. I keep a list in a text file.
    Firefox now requires Windows Administrator password before you can view
    and edit the passwords and this to me is too much for Mitchell Baker to
    do. He/She is not a programmer and he or she has no business to ask me
    my Windows 10 password. He/she is just an ordinary trans person earning
    4 million USD per year for doing absolutely nothing.

    Good luck Mahem and look after yourself. Talibans are in charge of
    Afghanistan and Joe Biden takes orders from them and even begging them
    to allow safe passage for American soldiers. They have warned of
    "consequences" if Joe Biden doesn't pull out of Afghanistan by end of
    the month. Chinese are in charge of this world in 2021!


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/08/2021 10:59, Mahem Jadhav
    wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
    cite="mid:4d2e1a5d-4a8d-474a-a3df-28abea76bda4n@googlegroups.com">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">even I am worried why it prompting us for the password without any new window/ tab is being open...
    Should we move out from firefox passwords
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I don't store passwords in Firefox. I keep a list in a text file.
    Firefox now requires Windows Administrator password before you can
    view and edit the passwords and this to me is too much for
    Mitchell Baker to do. He/She is not a programmer and he or she has
    no business to ask me my Windows 10 password. He/she is just an
    ordinary trans person earning 4 million USD per year for doing
    absolutely nothing.</p>
    <p>Good luck Mahem and look after yourself. Talibans are in charge
    of Afghanistan and Joe Biden takes orders from them and even
    begging them to allow safe passage for American soldiers. They
    have warned of "consequences" if Joe Biden doesn't pull out of
    Afghanistan by end of the month. Chinese are in charge of this
    world in 2021!<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
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    center;font-weight: 900;border-radius: 5px;">
    <p>With over 1.3 billion devices now running Windows 10,
    customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version
    of windows. </p>
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    </div>
    </div>
    </body>
    </html>

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 25 12:52:20 2021
    Mahem,

    even I am worried why it prompting us for the password without
    any new window/ tab is being open...

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
    Arthur C. Clarke

    In your case it probably just a more recent FF which, by default, runs in
    the background (so it can receive notifications).

    Should we move out from firefox passwords

    Yes, absolute! When you do not understand what something is good for you should absolutily get rid of it. In that direction I would like to
    suggest you take a look into the "C:\Windows" folder and its subfolders, and just delete everything you do not readily recognise. (And yes, thats a joke (of sorts). Don't even try it)

    Hint: do some googling to figure out what FF uses a "master password" for
    and see if you than still think you should get rid of it. And if you do (I doubt it) you than can at least *present us a reason* for why you think /we/ should consider "moving out" of it.


    As for "good guy" ? I don't know if you noticed, but he "answered" a question *that was never asked*.

    Yes, he's right that you do not /need/ to have a "master password" set (in
    my version of FF I can en/disable it on the tools -> options -> security
    tab). But that was not the problem the OP presented, and as such he's an idiot failing to even pass the (implicit) "do you understand the question" test.

    And whatdoyouknow, after he gets called out for that (by "Anthony R. Gold")
    he squarely puts the blame for his uninformed-and-totally-missing-the-plank "answer" onto the OP. Yes, thats right : *instead of asking the OP for a
    bit more info* he just goes with /what he doesn't know/ and thinks the best response is to call the OP stupid. Hows that for a prime example of "the pot calling the kettle black".

    IOW, be carefull with that "good guy". He's not a particulary good role-model.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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