• Now schools are ditching AD and BC in RE lessons to avoid offending

    From occam@21:1/5 to Dr. Jai Maharaj on Fri Oct 6 12:11:37 2017
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    On 06/10/2017 04:57, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Now schools are ditching AD and BC in RE lessons to avoid
    offending non-Christians...

    Daily Mail Online, dailymail.co.uk
    September 30, 2017

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4937310/Now-schools-ditching-AD-BC-lessons.html#ixzz4uEUK8pm2


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    I do not normally read the Daily Mail, in print or online form. Are the headlines different in the two versions? It strikes me that the
    headlines in the Online version are overlong. Once I've read it, I do
    not feel the urge to read the rest of the article because the headline
    says it all.

    A while ago in a.u.e. we discussed the special language of "headlinese",
    where punctuation marks and other linguistic niceties go out of the
    window for the sake of brevity. I hope this print vs. online schism will
    not be the end of "headlinese".

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  • From Tony Cooper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 11:35:23 2017
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    On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:37 +0200, occam <occam@erewhon.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 06/10/2017 04:57, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Now schools are ditching AD and BC in RE lessons to avoid
    offending non-Christians...

    Daily Mail Online, dailymail.co.uk
    September 30, 2017

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4937310/Now-schools-ditching-AD-BC-lessons.html#ixzz4uEUK8pm2


    [Unrelated]

    I do not normally read the Daily Mail, in print or online form. Are the >headlines different in the two versions? It strikes me that the
    headlines in the Online version are overlong. Once I've read it, I do
    not feel the urge to read the rest of the article because the headline
    says it all.

    A while ago in a.u.e. we discussed the special language of "headlinese", >where punctuation marks and other linguistic niceties go out of the
    window for the sake of brevity. I hope this print vs. online schism will
    not be the end of "headlinese".

    In discussions about "headlinese", the difference between a web news
    headline and a print news headline is often disregarded. A web
    article view may expand to fit the space, but a print news article has
    a fixed width to contend with. More, or longer, words can be used in
    a web news article.


    --
    Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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  • From Don Phillipson@21:1/5 to Tony Cooper on Fri Oct 6 13:26:50 2017
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:37 +0200, occam <occam@erewhon.invalid>

    A while ago in a.u.e. we discussed the special language of "headlinese", >>where punctuation marks and other linguistic niceties go out of the
    window for the sake of brevity. I hope this print vs. online schism will >>not be the end of "headlinese".

    "Tony Cooper" <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ph8ftc5uq70hmfga8almk5ish155gflbun@4ax.com...

    In discussions about "headlinese", the difference between a web news
    headline and a print news headline is often disregarded. A web
    article view may expand to fit the space, but a print news article has
    a fixed width to contend with. More, or longer, words can be used in
    a web news article.

    British and American newspapers developed 1900-1950 fairly exact
    (but nonidentical) protocols for how headlines should be written (and
    almost anything else) and both schoolroom and on-the-job journalism
    training taught those protocols for several decades.

    Besides the technical difference TC mentions, journalism schools
    no longer teach the 20th century formal rules of print journalism: the
    market has changed, now demanding (its owners believe) sound-on-
    film rather than words. (Perhaps it is just because I learned the old
    rules on the job in Toronto in the 1960s, but I believe today's senior
    editors do not check their juniors' copy the way they used to, and
    themselves know less than was expected in the 1960s -- or perhaps
    what they know is less job-specific than was then normal.)
    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)

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