• Fines for log book violations

    From tuas2084@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 29 00:15:04 2016
    I got 3 violations on my log book they appear in the inventory do this is a fine OR something against my license fine OR something let me know thanks this is in arizona

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  • From westham1456@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 01:22:40 2017
    I've changed the engine on my moped from a 50cc to a 80cc the log book still states it's a 50cc...can I still ride my bike
    Thanks

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  • From midiowaheating@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 03:37:26 2017
    Wake up call for CA Expert DOT Men...... Quit ignoring the whole law would ya?

    395.11 Exception III gets ignored, therefore are you thieves? Because you know it's in there!!!

    (3) Exception. A driver failing only to
    have possession of a record of duty status
    current on the day of examination
    and the prior day, but has completed
    records of duty status up to that time
    (previous 6 days), will be given the opportunity
    to make the duty status
    record current.

    So what part of this don't you understand? I have heard Cops telling their new guys to ignore that, like it isn't in there, but THERE IT IS!!!
    Explain that would ya?

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  • From Teo1074@icloud.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 07:03:03 2017
    On Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, ORION 300 wrote:

    Never Sign a Log Page Until It's Completed!


    Why is that? Please explain.



    Because when you sign you certify that all entries are true and correct. If you
    have lied (now who would do anything like that?) or made and inadvertant false
    entry, the cop can't cite you for falsifiying your log book. Usually a much steeper fine than being behind or not having a log book.
    HOWEVER, this does not apply if you run Canada, when driving in Canada, you MUST sign the log book at the beginning of the day. $300.00 fine for not doing
    this.
    In addition, if you look at the DOT hand book, it says, and I have seen this with my own eyes, that if your log book is behind, but you are current to the previous six days, you MUST be given the opportunity to bring it up to date. Look it up in your own DOT rule book so you know it is there and can use it if
    you need it. Don't let some prick cop BS you on this point.

    Oh God, another shithouse lawyer to tell us all the finer points of transportation law. Well, as per usual, he is wrong. A driver must have their log book current and record everything for each of the times they have a "change in duty status". If you
    completed a duty day and have not completed the log you will be cited for not having your log book current. What this person is confused about is the difference in not having you log current and signing it which can be construed as "making a false
    statement". This info can be found here - https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395.8

    Don't trust what you see here, what the guy I am answering says, hell, don't even trust what I say. Go to the regulations on the FMCSA website. Read them for yourself. DO NOT INTERPRET them. They are very literal. Black and White. Do what they state and
    you'll never have a problem.

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  • From phobdy62@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 14:48:23 2017
    Can I be given a penalty for not going back in my logbook if employer asks me to do this? Dot audit due in tomorrow. They want me to BACK DATE my log book. I didn't drive during the period they want me to backdate.

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  • From Larry Sheldon@21:1/5 to phobdy62@gmail.com on Thu Oct 5 17:38:48 2017
    On 10/4/2017 16:48, phobdy62@gmail.com wrote:
    Can I be given a penalty for not going back in my logbook if employer asks me to do this? Dot audit due in tomorrow. They want me to BACK DATE my log book. I didn't drive during the period they want me to backdate.

    IANAL but I think you could be find for an out-of-date loge, which is
    supposed top reflect your status correctly, whether you drive or not.

    (The first full day of no driving can show the range of dates you were
    idle.)


    --
    quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    -- Juvenal

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  • From Larry Sheldon@21:1/5 to Larry Sheldon on Fri Oct 6 15:10:52 2017
    On 10/5/2017 17:38, Larry Sheldon wrote:
    On 10/4/2017 16:48, phobdy62@gmail.com wrote:
    Can I be given a penalty for not going back in my logbook if employer
    asks me to do this? Dot audit due in tomorrow. They want me to BACK
    DATE my log book. I didn't drive during the period they want me to
    backdate.

    IANAL but I think you could be find for an out-of-date loge, which is
    fined
    supposed top reflect your status correctly, whether you drive or not.

    (The first full day of no driving can show the range of dates you were
    idle.)




    --
    quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    -- Juvenal

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  • From Larry Sheldon@21:1/5 to Larry Sheldon on Sat Oct 7 14:14:08 2017
    On 10/6/2017 15:10, Larry Sheldon wrote:
    On 10/5/2017 17:38, Larry Sheldon wrote:
    On 10/4/2017 16:48, phobdy62@gmail.com wrote:
    Can I be given a penalty for not going back in my logbook if employer
    asks me to do this? Dot audit due in tomorrow. They want me to BACK
    DATE my log book. I didn't drive during the period they want me to
    backdate.

    IANAL but I think you could be find for an out-of-date loge, which is
                                     fined
    supposed top reflect your status correctly, whether you drive or not.
    to

    (The first full day of no driving can show the range of dates you were
    idle.)






    --
    quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    -- Juvenal

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  • From Pdeshazier@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to Gunney on Sat Feb 24 20:00:25 2018
    On Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Gunney wrote:
    Chuck,Chuck,Chuck......Where in the heck do you come up with all these ideas??? You are so full of S___ I had to go out to the barn to get a
    shovel. All I will say is this!!! Read 395.8 (d) (5) of FMCSR, if you know what that is? And it clearly states that if you do what you just stated, I as a Law enforcement official could charge you with I Quote from section 395.8 (e) Failure to complete the record of duty activities of these
    sections and or making false reports in connection with such duty activities shall make the Driver and or the Carrier liable to Prosecution. If you are going to give advice, at least do your homework first!! Laws are not
    thought up as you go along!!

    That is all I have to say about that Issue.
    Gunney
    Chuck wrote in message <36d303d4.345999649@news.comteck.com>...
    On 23 Feb 1999 19:02:18 GMT, orion300@aol.com (ORION 300) wrote:

    Never Sign a Log Page Until It's Completed!

    Why is that? Please explain.

    Because when you sign you certify that all entries are true and correct.

    Oh really! ??

    So an officer asks to see my logbook at, say, 1500 hours. I have it >completed current to my last change of duty status at, say 1300 hours
    when I came off of lunch break. Complete with my signature where is is >required to be. There are no entried after 1300 hours .. the time of
    my last change of duty. My signature denotes that I attest to the
    accuracy of all entries on that sheet.

    Now where are all these false entries that he's gonna cite me for?

    There are none.

    ARE YOU still on here after all these years? I just need information on the same topic

    thanks,
    P white

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  • From badluck50@msn.com@21:1/5 to Yodldihodl on Tue May 1 13:58:29 2018
    On Monday, February 22, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Yodldihodl wrote:
    What are the fines for log book violations, are they the same nationwide or do
    they vary by state? Is there a difference in fines for not having a log book at
    all and not being up to date with the log book? When pulled over and not up to
    date, do they allow the driver a certain amount of time to update his log book
    before a ticket is issued? Does it make a difference if the log book page for that date is signed by the driver, even if the log for that day is not up to date?

    Who gets the ticket and or fin .when there is no E logs
    in truck yet

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  • From 7jamesglover@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 14 06:41:04 2019
    You must only sign your pretrip at the start of your day . If you sign the hour of service part at the start of your day you can be fined

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  • From ragsdaletravelers@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 16:57:58 2020
    I am not a CDL driver. While in Lee’s Summit misouri unloading trees, a thunderstorm blew up and scattered my invoice to customer and, unbeknownst to me my log sheet. Also picked up a cancer dying friend that was visiting his sister in Lee’s Summit,
    car had broken down and he was to ride w/me to LaMarr, Mo....( right on my way back to tulsa. Weigh station cited me for no log and unauthorized passenger..... anyone know the severity of this? I was driving under 26,000 truck.
    Help? I drive long distance very rarely!
    Thanks for any help!

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