XPost: uk.railway, uk.tranport.london
On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 20:20:44 +0100, Robert <
coppercapped@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 2017-08-27 13:44:47 +0000, R. Mark Clayton said:
On Sunday, 27 August 2017 13:47:06 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Robert <coppercapped@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2017-08-27 12:12:17 +0000, e27002 aurora said:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:43:30 -0500, rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk
wrote:
I thought when the Mayor wanted to extend Oyster to National Rail route in
London ATOC insisted that railcards had to be recognised and discounts >>>>>> given. So the system to register railcards on Oyster cards was somewhat >>>>>> haphazardly introduced. For example you couldn't check railcard registration
status at a ticket machine. It was only when they decided to close all the
ticket offices that they had to make it possible as it now is.
But for people living outside London who aren't regular visitors contactless
became a much better option when introduced unless you are a railcard holder
because, although Oyster cards have to be registered to get railcard >>>>>> discounts, they have not enabled railcard discounts against Contactless >>>>>> travel.
So NR passengers can't get their railcard discounts using contactless. My
question is why ATOC put up with this? It seems to go completely against >>>>>> their agreement to allow Oyster to NR routes.
As the hub at the center of the UK's rail network, I have never
understood why London's Rapid Transit system must be the exception to >>>>> the rules apply to the rest of the UK's railways. Its ticketing
arrangements should work in line with the other railways.
I'm confused. Why have you posted the same text with two slightly
different subject lines a few hours apart?
And why do you think a ticketing system designed for a limited
geographic area and for a system which carries half the total number of >>>> passengers in the UK should be in line with that needed for the rest of >>>> the UK?
I think we know why Adrian thinks the way he does: TfL is controlled by a >>> Labour mayor, while the DfT is headed by a right-wing secretary of state. >>> Ergo, everything that TfL does must be bad, and everything the DfT does
must have been for the best possible reasons.
The fact that London has a smart card that actually works, while the DfT's >>> preferred ITSO standard smart card is neither standard nor smart, is
neither here nor there.
But everyone else uses ITSO.
DfT has abandoned it. It will now probably fade away as more modern
methods take over.
So, what comes next? SWT had only been promoting their card for about
a year when their franchise ended!
One hopes other railways are not going to copy LU's example and charge
straight to debit cards. That would make discounted tickets and
seasons very hard to implement.
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