• Re: Gateway Project

    From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to billvan@separatethis.canada.com on Sun Nov 14 23:48:33 2021
    XPost: van.general, bc.politics, misc.transport.trucking

    On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:58:18 GMT, bill van
    <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote:

    In article <1153096832.820210.309740@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
    "Greg Carr" <gregpcarr@yahoo.ca> wrote:

    No thumbs-up for Gateway project

    By Dan Ferguson
    Staff Reporter
    Jul 14 2006

    Delta residents will just have to live with a less than ideal version
    of the South Fraser Perimeter Road (SFPR) proposed by the provincial
    government's Gateway program, Mayor Lois Jackson predicted Monday.


    More than 200 homes will fall for Perimeter Road

    By Jeff Nagel
    Black Press
    Jun 30 2006

    Surrey will take the brunt of an estimated 215 home demolitions that
    will be required to make way for the planned South Fraser Perimeter

    The only way the opponents are going to stop this thing is by
    protesting it.

    The residents of Delta and Surrey don't want to stop it. Surrey is
    nearly unanimous in support of the whole Gateway project. Delta is very
    much in favour of the South Fraser Perimeter Road, but not very happy
    about the Trans-Canada Highway/Port Mann Bridge expansion.

    In Surrey there's one neighbourhood -- the one the perimeter highway
    will go through -- that doesn't like it. In Delta, they desperately want
    the truck highway. It's not just for Deltaport, it's also to relieve
    pressure on River Road, take some traffic off the congested existing >highways, etc. They just think it should go a slightly different route,
    part of it through tunnels.

    Protesting won't help at all in this case, although people should
    certainly protest if they want to. Remember what happened when the
    residents of West Vancouver protested the Highway 99 route? That's
    right, nothing. Kevin Falcon is determined to punch these projects
    through. Hell, two thirds of the municipal governments in the region,
    plus the regional government, are opposed to the Port Mann project, and >that's having no effect so far.

    I work in the transportation/warehousing industry so I
    can see the need for the project but I don't see industry doing
    anything to pay for it.

    Industry is promising prosperity by making B.C. the so-called gateway
    between China and North America for container traffic. The Liberals have >adopted that as their primary economic strategy. To the provincial >government, the additional traffic they expect is huge payment. And if
    it works, the economic activity will generate a lot of new tax revenue.

    Container traffic at Delta Port has actually dropped this year, since
    their major customer Hapag-Lloyd left, and many of the modern container
    ships can't fit in the Fraser river channel. But the port authorities
    like the YVR mngmt before them say it is inevitable that the growth
    will happen.

    The growth will only happen -- probably -- if the facilities are there, >including the roads. If it does, though, think of what happens the next
    time the Chinese economy tanks, like it did in the 1990s. That's right,
    B.C. also tanks.

    Port-wise, though, you have two of them mixed up. Deltaport isn't on the >river, it's on the Strait just up the coast from the Tsawwassen ferry >terminal. No problem with lack of deep water. It's Fraserport that's
    having the problem with traffic being down.

    The residents of Annieville and Sunbury in Delta and Royal Heights in
    Surrey will be most affected by this project. If they shut down the
    HUDD Distribution facilities and the other lesser foreign owned
    terminals the project will not be necessary. These companies do nothing
    for the community, cause accidents on River Rd and congestion and are
    now using their political might to push the project through with the

    Even if nothing changes, the South Fraser Perimeter Road is a good idea >because all the truck traffic now goes along River Road, right through
    those communities. The question is whether the route the Liberals have
    chosen will just wreck those communities in a different way, and it well >might.

    Complaining to the media and MPs and MLAs as well as municipal
    authorities is one course of action. Demonstrations and picketing of
    the access points to the terminals is another. These companies are
    powerful enough that the local newspaper media never report their names
    when they are involved in news items. Instead only the unit block is

    Do you mean the port authorities, which are not companies, or the
    companies that do business in the ports? If you read the business pages,
    they are all regularly named.


    You're trying to hold an intelligent conversation with an idiot. Don't
    waste your time..

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