• Re: Did the federal government make the right call giving money to Cali

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    tRUMP VERMIN Inmate P01135809 <elonx@protonmail.com> wrote in news:umqleq$1jis6$6@dont-email.me:

    Gavin Newsom should be indicted for fraud and misuse of federal funds.

    The Biden administration announced recently that it would give $6 billion
    to two high-speed rail projects in California.

    While only a fraction of total costs, it was seen by some transportation advocates as a win for California because it is getting a big portion of infrastructure funds largely because it already had two high-speed
    projects started.

    Critics argue the California high-speed rail project, from L.A. to San Francisco (and eventually extended to San Diego), has gone too far over
    budget and it is time to cut losses and end it.

    The L.A. to Las Vegas rail project is seen as more politically favorable because it is private-public partnership. Yet $3 billion from taxpayers
    puts the project under more scrutiny. Skeptics have questioned if a rail
    line to Las Vegas is necessary when travelers could just fly or drive.
    Also, current plans for the Brightline rail have it starting in Rancho Cucamonga, which will likely mean a long commute (by car, Metrolink rail
    or bus) just to get on it.

    Proponents say the U.S. is behind on high-speed rail, which they say will
    ease traffic construction and reduce pollution.

    Q: Did the federal government make the right call giving money to
    California high-speed rail projects?

    Jamie Moraga, Franklin Revere

    NO: Stop putting good money after bad. The federal government is
    subsidizing these projects that even with this additional funding, will
    not be enough to finish them. More funding will be required that
    California can’t currently sustain and continues to be a waste of taxpayer money. Cost overruns, poor planning, and poor decision making have unfortunately plagued the rail projects from the start.

    David Ely, San Diego State University

    NO: The rail project connecting the Bay area to Southern California does
    not have a high probability of ever being completed. Even completing the Central Valley section will be challenging. The $3 billion going toward
    this project could be better spent elsewhere. The case for supporting the Brightline West project is stronger given the lower construction barriers
    and the involvement of a private partner who has demonstrated success in a high-speed rail project in Florida.

    Caroline Freund, UC San Diego School of Global Policy and Strategy

    YES: High-speed rail would yield immense economic and environmental
    benefits. The U.S., with no fully functional high-speed rail service, lags
    far behind Asia and Europe, where governments have strategically invested
    in thousands of miles of tracks. Limited public investment and
    overregulation lead to delays and high costs in the U.S. Buy American laws prevent the use of low-cost imported materials further boosting costs.
    This is just a start; more ambition and investment are needed.

    Kelly Cunningham, San Diego Institute for Economic Research

    NO: In 15 years since the HSR was approved, no rail lines or project
    conditions have been completed. Projected costs are more than quintupled
    so far and at current pace will not likely be completed this century.
    Final costs for the nation’s “biggest boondoggle in history” are
    impossible to realistically project. Better to put more money into lower-
    cost projects linking disparate parts of the existing state rail network
    than sinking more into a bottomless money pit.

    Lynn Reaser, economist

    NO: Both physical and monetary constraints will doom the two projects. The Brightline project serving the Las Vegas market would make sense if it
    extended to Union Station in downtown Los Angeles rather than just Rancho Cucamonga. The budget shortfall for the California project will still be
    about $78 billion. Businesses, residents, and utilities would need to be
    moved, making the high-speed train only distant vision for the entire San Francisco to Anaheim route.

    Phil Blair, Manpower

    YES: Many outlandish projects need government support to get off the
    ground. The differentiating factor here is a private company sees
    potential in the route. They have experience and will build the line and
    manage it. These are not the government’s strengths.

    Gary London, London Moeder Advisors

    NO: It is time to reevaluate the concept of high speed rail in California.
    I do not see the social utility of an L.A. to Vegas line: it is not about commuting or economic expansion. The L.A. to San Francisco line is fraught
    with intractable complications. And the central California route is
    ridiculous. I like fast trains, but it may be an outdated approach. High
    tech solutions, involving autonomous, personal vehicles just might make
    more sense.

    Alan Gin, University of San Diego

    NO: That’s not to say that high-speed rail isn’t important. Its benefits include reduced congestion, reduced pollution, and reduced dependence on foreign oil. But the U.S. just can’t seem to build rail systems anymore.
    Cost overruns lead to projects going way over budget, and there are often protracted battles over routing. For California in particular, there is
    too much urban sprawl, which reduces the density necessary to support rail systems.

    Bob Rauch, R.A. Rauch & Associates

    NO: The “train to nowhere” (no offense intended to residents of Merced and Bakersfield) is projected to cost more than $20 billion — several billion dollars more than a previous projection made in 2019 and is likely to grow
    more expensive. It will duplicate an Amtrak route and go nowhere in
    helping the L.A. to San Francisco route, as promised by Gov. Newsom. Give
    back to taxpayers the $4 billion to $5 billion of remaining funds from the original $9 billion bond that was approved.

    James Hamilton, UC San Diego

    YES and NO: Half the $6 billion is well spent, the other half not. The
    dream of a high-speed rail connecting L.A. to San Francisco is never going
    to happen, and any new federal contribution to that is throwing good money after bad. By contrast, connecting L.A. to Las Vegas could make economic
    sense, as evidenced by the substantial commitment of private investors. Building on public-private partnerships is a promising way to temper politician’s dreams with the reality of economic costs and benefits.

    Austin Neudecker, Weave Growth

    NO: I remain baffled by the exponential cost inflation associated with infrastructure projects. That money could fly more than 60 million people
    to Vegas without the drive to San Bernardino. I am also uncomfortable with
    tax dollars substantially subsidizing a private venture. If we believe
    public, environmentally-friendly transit is a priority, we should consider options that make these projects more economically viable. It may be time
    to consider new solutions like automated e-buses that don’t require
    substantial infrastructure.

    Chris Van Gorder, Scripps Health

    NO: Unless the projects are funded by federal resources, and the governor
    and legislature can commit to doing a better job of staying within budget
    and on schedule, I can’t support them. While I do believe there is a need
    to improve transportation in the state, I think there are higher needs and priorities for funding with state resources right now, especially given
    that California is looking at record budget deficits.

    Norm Miller, University of San Diego

    NO: While I love high speed trains and good public transit systems, this project has too many impediments and unknown costs. I would prefer an underground vacuum tube system (like the hyperloop) that allows near
    airflight speeds and requires much less demolition of existing structures. Unless we use more advanced technology and can assure completion before
    the next wave of technology makes it obsolete, our taxpayer funds would be better applied to reducing our national deficit.

    Not participating this week
    Haney Hong, San Diego County Taxpayers Assoc.

    Ray Major, SANDAG

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