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  • What is a "mixed train?

    From Kurt Hackenberg@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Tue Jan 1 17:23:16 2019
    hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    They were good trains, the Budd cars were.

    They ran between Brewster North (now Southeast) and Dover Plains, on the >Harlem Line, as well as between Suffern and Port Jervis on the Port
    Jervis Line.

    BC Rail also ran them before ending passenger service, IIRC, whilst VIA
    Rail Canada ran them between Halifax and Sydney.

    Anybody else?

    The Reading Railroad (on its Reading line), the Boston and Maine.

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  • From bob@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Tue Jan 1 20:30:53 2019
    hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/12/2018 21:00, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 4:15:20 PM UTC-5, Mike Powell wrote:

    IIRC, a couple of short lines in Kentucky actually had rail busses... not >>> RDCs or anything like that, but actual "bus-looking" vehicles powered by >>> Mack (??) engines with rail wheels on them.

    Over the years, a variety of light-duty railed vehicles were built
    for branch line service, including buses mounted on rail wheels.
    The New Haven bought a few Mack units.

    The most successful unit was the RDC. Excellent design.
    Unfortunately, even though it was much cheaper to operate,
    branch line service was still a money-loser in most cases.

    They were good trains, the Budd cars were.

    They ran between Brewster North (now Southeast) and Dover Plains, on the Harlem Line, as well as between Suffern and Port Jervis on the Port
    Jervis Line.

    BC Rail also ran them before ending passenger service, IIRC, whilst VIA
    Rail Canada ran them between Halifax and Sydney.

    Anybody else?

    VIA ran them on Victoria to Courtney until that service ended in, IIRC,
    2010, and still run them on Sudbury - White River.

    Robin

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  • From Wayne Hines@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Tue Jan 1 20:34:34 2019
    On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:30:31 +0000, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

    On 31/12/2018 21:00, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 4:15:20 PM UTC-5, Mike Powell wrote:

    IIRC, a couple of short lines in Kentucky actually had rail busses...
    not RDCs or anything like that, but actual "bus-looking" vehicles
    powered by Mack (??) engines with rail wheels on them.

    Over the years, a variety of light-duty railed vehicles were built for
    branch line service, including buses mounted on rail wheels.
    The New Haven bought a few Mack units.

    The most successful unit was the RDC. Excellent design. Unfortunately,
    even though it was much cheaper to operate,
    branch line service was still a money-loser in most cases.

    They were good trains, the Budd cars were.

    They ran between Brewster North (now Southeast) and Dover Plains, on the Harlem Line, as well as between Suffern and Port Jervis on the Port
    Jervis Line.

    BC Rail also ran them before ending passenger service, IIRC, whilst VIA
    Rail Canada ran them between Halifax and Sydney.

    Anybody else?

    Both CN and CP ran RDCs in various parts of Canada before VIA took over passenger service.

    The Dominion Atlantic, and later VIA, ran them between Halifax and
    Yarmouth in Nova Scotia. CN and VIA also ran RDCs from Halifax to parts
    of New Brunswick.

    I rode CN RDCs in southern Quebec in the 1960s. I believe both CN and CP operated RDC service in southern Ontario.

    gwh

    --
    I used to care but things have changed.

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  • From hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com@21:1/5 to houn...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed Jan 2 14:41:52 2019
    On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 10:30:38 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
    On 31/12/2018 21:00, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 4:15:20 PM UTC-5, Mike Powell wrote:

    IIRC, a couple of short lines in Kentucky actually had rail busses... not >> RDCs or anything like that, but actual "bus-looking" vehicles powered by >> Mack (??) engines with rail wheels on them.

    Over the years, a variety of light-duty railed vehicles were built
    for branch line service, including buses mounted on rail wheels.
    The New Haven bought a few Mack units.

    The most successful unit was the RDC. Excellent design.
    Unfortunately, even though it was much cheaper to operate,
    branch line service was still a money-loser in most cases.

    They were good trains, the Budd cars were.

    They ran between Brewster North (now Southeast) and Dover Plains, on the Harlem Line, as well as between Suffern and Port Jervis on the Port
    Jervis Line.

    BC Rail also ran them before ending passenger service, IIRC, whilst VIA
    Rail Canada ran them between Halifax and Sydney.

    Anybody else?

    There's an excellent book on the RDC by Chuck Crouse. Gives
    the whole history.

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  • From hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com@21:1/5 to houn...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed Jan 2 14:49:49 2019
    On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 10:30:38 PM UTC-5, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

    Anybody else?

    Many (most?) U.S. railroads operated an RDC at one time or another.
    In some cases, the service was short lived. In other cases the
    railroad bought a fleet and used them extensively.

    Canada used them extensively, and may still even now.

    The B&M had the largest fleet and used them for Boston commuter
    service.

    Sadly, (per Crouse's book), the MBTA/B&M screwed up the rebuild
    project and went instead of unmotored coaches. I think they're
    gone.

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