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  • Binghamton, Southern Tier and Port Jervis Line

    From hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 7 00:03:03 2019
    XPost: nyc.transit

    I know that there are aspirations to restore service between New York
    and Binghamton via the Lackawanna Cut-Off. Has anything happened with
    that over the past 12 months?

    AIAUI, Amtrak undertook a preliminary study on the resumption of
    passenger service on the Southern Tier, perhaps to Buffalo, also via the Lackawanna Cut-Off and Binghamton. Any movement on that? My guess is no,
    under the current Administration.

    Erie Lackawanna ran service to Chicago out of Hoboken via that route
    until early 1970, it turns out, but I thought that EL also ran passenger
    trains to Binghamton via Port Jervis. When did that end?

    The Southern Tier line's route between Port Jervis and Binghamton --
    extremely curvy and full of speed restrictions, if not down to
    restricted -- make the resumption of passenger service between those two
    points to reach New York time-consuming and thus highly unlikely. Has MTA/NJT/PennDOT considered introducing some sort of regional rail
    service between Binghamton and Port Jervis, however, or even extending
    the Port Jervis Line at least a couple of stations west?

    I'm not talking about the proposal to build out to Stewart, which I
    think is already dead.

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  • From J.Albert@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Sun Apr 14 16:45:52 2019
    On 4/6/19 7:03 PM, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
    Has MTA/NJT/PennDOT considered introducing some sort of
    regional rail service between Binghamton and Port Jervis,
    however, or even extending the Port Jervis Line at least a
    couple of stations west?

    I don't think this will happen, first of all because as soon
    as the Southern Tier heads west out of Port Jervis, it
    crosses the Delaware to the Pennsylvania side. And from
    there until it crosses back over to the New York side, there
    aren't any towns and little access to the tracks.

    Also, Metro-North has no authority to operate in
    Pennsylvania, as far as I know (nor does NJ Rail, which
    provides the crews for the trains).

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  • From hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk@21:1/5 to J.Albert on Mon Apr 15 00:01:38 2019
    On 14.04.19 21:45, J.Albert wrote:
    On 4/6/19 7:03 PM, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
    Has MTA/NJT/PennDOT considered introducing some sort of regional rail
    service between Binghamton and Port Jervis, however, or even extending
    the Port Jervis Line at least a couple of stations west?

    I don't think this will happen, first of all because as soon as the
    Southern Tier heads west out of Port Jervis, it crosses the Delaware to
    the Pennsylvania side. And from there until it crosses back over to the
    New York side, there aren't any towns and little access to the tracks.


    Also, Metro-North has no authority to operate in Pennsylvania, as far as
    I know

    Hence my statement that any sort of extension would need the
    collaboration of PennDOT.

    (nor does NJ Rail, which provides the crews for the trains).

    Actually, NJ Transit does have the authority as they run trains from
    30th Street Station out to Atlantic City.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Mon Apr 15 16:56:12 2019
    In article <q90e52$ic$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
    hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    (nor does NJ Transit, which provides the crews for the trains).

    Actually, NJ Transit does have the authority as they run trains from
    30th Street Station out to Atlantic City.

    Well, they have done so in the past, and they may do so in the future,
    but they don't now. The AC line has been closed for six months for
    signal upgrades. The state says it'll reopen on May 24 but I'll
    believe it when I see it. The Princeton branch is also closed and is
    also supposed to reopen on the same day.

    Dunno if this counts but NYC-Trenton trains are use a yard across the
    river in Morrisville PA that NJT runs.




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  • From hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk@21:1/5 to John Levine on Mon Apr 15 21:31:12 2019
    On 15.04.19 17:56, John Levine wrote:
    In article <q90e52$ic$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
    hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    (nor does NJ Transit, which provides the crews for the trains).

    Actually, NJ Transit does have the authority as they run trains from
    30th Street Station out to Atlantic City.

    Well, they have done so in the past, and they may do so in the future,
    but they don't now. The AC line has been closed for six months for
    signal upgrades.

    What kind of upgrades?

    The state says it'll reopen on May 24 but I'll
    believe it when I see it. The Princeton branch is also closed and is
    also supposed to reopen on the same day.

    Why is the Dinky not running?

    Dunno if this counts but NYC-Trenton trains are use a yard across the
    river in Morrisville PA that NJT runs.

    I don't know, to be honest.

    Incidentally, the Lille Metro's depot at CH Dron depot is in Belgium,
    whilst CH Dron station is in France.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk on Mon Apr 15 22:10:26 2019
    In article <q92pmn$ao5$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
    hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    Well, they have done so in the past, and they may do so in the future,
    but they don't now. The AC line has been closed for six months for
    signal upgrades.

    What kind of upgrades?

    Sorry, that is highly confidential information limited only to people who
    type "atlantic city rail upgrades" into a search engine.

    The state says it'll reopen on May 24 but I'll
    believe it when I see it. The Princeton branch is also closed and is
    also supposed to reopen on the same day.

    Why is the Dinky not running?

    Sorry, that is highly confidential information limited only to people who
    type "princeton branch rail upgrades" into a search engine.

    R's,
    John
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