• is the accountant right

    From MZB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 30 09:44:43 2022
    My daughter got an Ameritrade account titled
    Her Name AS CUST FOR Son's Name UTMA CA UNTIL AGE 18

    Son is 2 1/2 years old. Account is under son's SS #


    Her account, invested in stocks, has realized about $4000 in ST Cap
    Gains in 2021.

    Her accountant says

    Put son's stuff on mother's tax return because she is the custodian and
    if you do a separate return for the child they ask for the parent's
    income anyhow and tax it that way,

    Is this correct and is it the best way to file?

    Mel

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to MZB on Wed Mar 30 10:08:24 2022
    MZB <moo@noway.prudigy.net> wrote:

    My daughter got an Ameritrade account titled
    Her Name AS CUST FOR Son's Name UTMA CA UNTIL AGE 18

    Son is 2 1/2 years old. Account is under son's SS #


    Her account, invested in stocks, has realized about $4000 in ST
    Cap Gains in 2021.

    Her accountant says

    Put son's stuff on mother's tax return because she is the
    custodian and if you do a separate return for the child they ask
    for the parent's income anyhow and tax it that way,

    Is this correct and is it the best way to file?

    The accountant is mostly right, but left out an option. If the
    unearned income is more than $1100, if a separate return is filed for
    the child, I think the first $1100 is not taxed. The balance would
    be taxed at the parents' tax bracket. This rule only applies to
    unearned income.


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  • From Bob Sandler@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 30 11:22:17 2022
    My daughter got an Ameritrade account titled
    Her Name AS CUST FOR Son's Name UTMA CA UNTIL AGE 18
    Son is 2 1/2 years old. Account is under son's SS #

    Her account, invested in stocks, has realized about $4000 in ST Cap
    Gains in 2021.

    Her accountant says

    Put son's stuff on mother's tax return because she is the custodian and
    if you do a separate return for the child they ask for the parent's
    income anyhow and tax it that way,

    Is this correct and is it the best way to file?

    It's not correct at all. The accountant is totally wrong.
    You cannot report a child's capital gains on the parent's
    return. They have to file a separate return for the child.

    You can include a child's investment income on the parent's
    return if the child's only income is interest and dividends,
    including capital gain *distributions* (in 1099-DIV box 2a).
    But if the child has actual capital gains (on a 1099-B), not
    just capital gain distributions, it cannot go on the
    parent's return.

    Including a child's interest and dividends on the parent's
    return has nothing to do with who the custodian is. It
    doesn't matter whether the custodian is the child's parent
    or someone else. It's a choice of including a child's income
    on the parent's return or filing a separate return for the
    child.

    IRS Publication 929 has a long list of reasons that
    reporting the child's income on the parent's return could
    result in paying more tax. See "Effect of Making the
    Election" on page 11. That includes a number of deductions
    and credits that could be reduced or eliminated because the
    child's income increases the parent's AGI. The only
    advantage of reporting the income on the parent's return, if
    it can be done at all, is that it's a little less paperwork.

    Bob Sandler

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  • From Maria Ku@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 14:55:03 2022
    I agree with what Bob said.

    Re: what Stu said "If the unearned income is more than $1100, if a separate return is filed for the child, I think the first $1100 is not taxed. The balance would be taxed at the parents' tax bracket. This rule only applies to unearned income. " - It's
    almost correct. Assuming this 2.5yo's income is all from investments: On child's own tax return, the first $1,100 of income will be tax-free, the 2nd $1,100 of income will be taxed at child's own rate (10%?), and the remainder will be taxed at the
    parents' marginal tax rate.

    Maria U. Ku, CPA
    Oakland, CA

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