• Is this reimbursement really taxable income?

    From Tom Russ@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 7 22:45:31 2022
    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected homeowners a choice of
    (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while staying away from their homes.
    (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200 for the purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in their homes and close the windows.
    Program description: https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y250/mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other Income".
    Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the income tax forms?

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Tom Russ on Tue Mar 8 00:26:01 2022
    Tom Russ <taruss@google.com> wrote:

    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an
    incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors
    affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected homeowners
    a choice of (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while staying away
    from their homes. (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200 for the
    purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in their homes
    and close the windows. Program description: https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y250/ mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other
    Income". Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as
    taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the
    income tax forms?

    The homeowners should have gotten their own air conditioners first,
    and been reimbursed for them afterwards. In that case it wouldn't be
    income - it would have been a reimbursement. But taking the money (or
    air conditioners) first is taxable income because the program doesn't
    specify that it's reimbursement for anything that would make it non-
    taxable.

    I guess another option would have been to say the "incident" caused
    physical personal injuries (however small) and this was to compensate
    them for the injuries. That would have been tax free.

    But being given money or air conditioners due to an "inconvenience"
    is very likely taxable.

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  • From Tom Russ@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Tue Mar 8 09:47:20 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:28:24 PM UTC-8, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
    Tom Russ <tar...@google.com> wrote:

    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an
    incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors
    affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected homeowners
    a choice of (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while staying away
    from their homes. (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200 for the
    purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in their homes
    and close the windows. Program description: https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y250/ mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other
    Income". Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as
    taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the
    income tax forms?
    The homeowners should have gotten their own air conditioners first,
    and been reimbursed for them afterwards. In that case it wouldn't be
    income - it would have been a reimbursement. But taking the money (or
    air conditioners) first is taxable income because the program doesn't
    specify that it's reimbursement for anything that would make it non-
    taxable.

    The format of the program was for the homeowners to purchase air
    conditioner units themselves, present receipts and and apply for
    reimbursement afterwards. From the program description:

    "Option 1. Air conditioner unit(s)
    LA Sanitation & Environment will reimburse residential households for air conditioning
    units (defined as air conditioners, fans, air purifiers, air filters, and installation) if they
    don’t already have them. There is a $600 limit per household for homes 1000 square
    feet or smaller and a $1200 limit per household for homes above 1000 square feet.
    Receipts will be required within 14 days of purchase. This offer is valid July 12, 2021
    through 11:59pm September 23, 20021 unless otherwise extended in writing by the City
    of Los Angeles."

    I don't know if that affects the analysis.


    I guess another option would have been to say the "incident" caused
    physical personal injuries (however small) and this was to compensate
    them for the injuries. That would have been tax free.

    But being given money or air conditioners due to an "inconvenience"
    is very likely taxable.

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    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 8 11:04:16 2022
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" wrote in message news:XnsAE53D9F7895Dspamtraplexregiacom@130.133.4.11...

    Tom Russ <taruss@google.com> wrote:

    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an
    incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors
    affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected homeowners
    a choice of (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while staying away
    from their homes. (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200 for the
    purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in their homes
    and close the windows. Program description:
    https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y250/
    mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other
    Income". Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as
    taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the
    income tax forms?

    The homeowners should have gotten their own air conditioners first,
    and been reimbursed for them afterwards. In that case it wouldn't be
    income - it would have been a reimbursement. But taking the money (or
    air conditioners) first is taxable income because the program doesn't
    specify that it's reimbursement for anything that would make it non-
    taxable.

    I guess another option would have been to say the "incident" caused
    physical personal injuries (however small) and this was to compensate
    them for the injuries. That would have been tax free.

    But being given money or air conditioners due to an "inconvenience"
    is very likely taxable.


    Why wouldn't this be considered a gift? After all, the homeowner is doing nothing in return to "earn" the $1200. I always considered the difference between a gift and income is that a gift is something given to someone with
    no expectation of getting anything in return. On the other hand, income is paid to reward some kind of effort or action by the recipient. In this
    case, it seems the homeowner does nothing to "earn" the $1200 and the
    provider of the money is seemingly getting nothing in return. So why is
    this not a gift?

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Rick on Tue Mar 8 14:15:48 2022
    "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" wrote
    Tom Russ <taruss@google.com> wrote:

    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an
    incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors
    affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected
    homeowners a choice of (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while
    staying away from their homes. (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200
    for the purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in
    their homes and close the windows. Program description:
    https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y25
    0/ mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other
    Income". Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as
    taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the
    income tax forms?

    The homeowners should have gotten their own air conditioners
    first, and been reimbursed for them afterwards. In that case it
    wouldn't be income - it would have been a reimbursement. But
    taking the money (or air conditioners) first is taxable income
    because the program doesn't specify that it's reimbursement for
    anything that would make it non- taxable.

    I guess another option would have been to say the "incident"
    caused physical personal injuries (however small) and this was to >>compensate them for the injuries. That would have been tax free.

    But being given money or air conditioners due to an
    "inconvenience" is very likely taxable.

    Why wouldn't this be considered a gift? After all, the homeowner
    is doing nothing in return to "earn" the $1200. I always
    considered the difference between a gift and income is that a gift
    is something given to someone with no expectation of getting
    anything in return. On the other hand, income is paid to reward
    some kind of effort or action by the recipient. In this case, it
    seems the homeowner does nothing to "earn" the $1200 and the
    provider of the money is seemingly getting nothing in return. So
    why is this not a gift?

    Generally only humans are allowed to make gifts from a tax
    standpoint. And it's only a gift if it comes from disinterested
    sense of generosity. These payments were for a specific purpose, not
    out of pure generosity. Income tax is imposed in any accession to
    wealth that is not subject to an exception. It has nothing to do
    with working for it.

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    Stu
    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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  • From Alana Rung@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Thu Apr 7 16:51:50 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-8, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
    "Rick" <ri...@nospam.com> wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" wrote
    Tom Russ <tar...@google.com> wrote:

    Background: Last summer the Los Angeles Hyperion plant had an
    incident which resulted in a large sewage spill and odors
    affecting nearby homeowners. The plant offered affected
    homeowners a choice of (A) Reimbursement of hotel expenses while
    staying away from their homes. (B) Reimbursement of up to $1200
    for the purchase of air conditioners so they could remain in
    their homes and close the windows. Program description:
    https://www.lacitysan.org/cs/groups/public/documents/document/y25
    0/ mdyz/~edisp/cnt063342.pdf

    Come tax time, we receive a 1099-Misc for the $1200 as "Other
    Income". Is this type of reimbursement properly classified as
    taxable income?

    If not, what would be the appropriate way to handle this on the
    income tax forms?

    The homeowners should have gotten their own air conditioners
    first, and been reimbursed for them afterwards. In that case it
    wouldn't be income - it would have been a reimbursement. But
    taking the money (or air conditioners) first is taxable income
    because the program doesn't specify that it's reimbursement for
    anything that would make it non- taxable.

    I guess another option would have been to say the "incident"
    caused physical personal injuries (however small) and this was to >>compensate them for the injuries. That would have been tax free.

    But being given money or air conditioners due to an
    "inconvenience" is very likely taxable.

    Why wouldn't this be considered a gift? After all, the homeowner
    is doing nothing in return to "earn" the $1200. I always
    considered the difference between a gift and income is that a gift
    is something given to someone with no expectation of getting
    anything in return. On the other hand, income is paid to reward
    some kind of effort or action by the recipient. In this case, it
    seems the homeowner does nothing to "earn" the $1200 and the
    provider of the money is seemingly getting nothing in return. So
    why is this not a gift?
    Generally only humans are allowed to make gifts from a tax
    standpoint. And it's only a gift if it comes from disinterested
    sense of generosity. These payments were for a specific purpose, not
    out of pure generosity. Income tax is imposed in any accession to
    wealth that is not subject to an exception. It has nothing to do
    with working for it.

    --
    Stu
    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

    Just following up on this thread because I cannot seem to get a decent answer. How did y'all handle this on your taxes? I don't understand why I am having to pay 22% in taxes on a reimbursment.

    Please help!

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