• [OT]: Are IRAs Judgement Proof?

    From Boris@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Thu Apr 15 22:04:01 2021
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap@lexregia.com> wrote in news:XnsAD0D6C37D565Espamtraplexregiacom@130.133.4.11:

    Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    I want to purchase an umbrella policy to protect our assests
    against personality liability claims. I want to protect real
    estate and investments.

    We are retired.

    If a judgement was made against me, would my (our) 401(k)s be at
    risk? Are social security payments at risk?

    We have other non-401(k) investments (cash and muni bonds) that I
    assume would be at risk, as real estate would be at risk, too.

    This is really more of a question for a bankruptcy lawyer than a tax professional. The answer to your question is, maybe. Each state has
    its own rules on what is or is not exempt from creditors. In some
    states retirement funds are exempt. That may not be the rule in
    every state. You need to talk to someone familiar with insolvency
    law in your state.


    Thanks, Stu.

    Yes, it is a question for an insolvency lawyer, with whom I plan to pursue.

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  • From paultry@21:1/5 to Boris on Fri Apr 16 02:43:12 2021
    On 4/15/2021 21:04, Boris wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap@lexregia.com> wrote in news:XnsAD0D6C37D565Espamtraplexregiacom@130.133.4.11:

    Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    I want to purchase an umbrella policy to protect our assests
    against personality liability claims. I want to protect real
    estate and investments.

    We are retired.

    If a judgement was made against me, would my (our) 401(k)s be at
    risk? Are social security payments at risk?

    We have other non-401(k) investments (cash and muni bonds) that I
    assume would be at risk, as real estate would be at risk, too.

    This is really more of a question for a bankruptcy lawyer than a tax
    professional. The answer to your question is, maybe. Each state has
    its own rules on what is or is not exempt from creditors. In some
    states retirement funds are exempt. That may not be the rule in
    every state. You need to talk to someone familiar with insolvency
    law in your state.


    Thanks, Stu.

    Yes, it is a question for an insolvency lawyer, with whom I plan to pursue.

    But should delinquent federal taxes and tax liens be at
    issue, see this section of the Internal Revenue Collection
    Manual regarding levy of IRAs, Social Security, etc.:

    https://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/irm_05-011-006

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Boris on Wed Apr 21 21:08:56 2021
    On 4/14/21 7:31 PM, Boris wrote:
    Hi,

    I want to purchase an umbrella policy to protect our assests against personality liability claims. I want to protect real estate and investments.

    We are retired.

    If a judgement was made against me, would my (our) 401(k)s be at risk? Are social security payments at risk?

    We have other non-401(k) investments (cash and muni bonds) that I assume would be at risk, as real estate would be at risk, too.

    TIA

    401(k) plans are covered by the 1974 federal law known as ERISA. As
    such, except for an IRS tax lien, creditors have no access to them.
    The IRS can also go after an IRA for taxes owed. Whether a creditor can
    go after your IRA varies by state. The following link has info on just
    this subject by state: https://www.assetprotectionplanners.com/planning/ira-by-state/

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  • From Boris@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Apr 23 22:07:01 2021
    Alan <tempuser@vacationmail.com> wrote in news:s5qib5$9e8$1@dont-email.me:

    On 4/14/21 7:31 PM, Boris wrote:
    Hi,

    I want to purchase an umbrella policy to protect our assests against
    personality liability claims. I want to protect real estate and investments.

    We are retired.

    If a judgement was made against me, would my (our) 401(k)s be at risk?
    Are
    social security payments at risk?

    We have other non-401(k) investments (cash and muni bonds) that I
    assume
    would be at risk, as real estate would be at risk, too.

    TIA

    401(k) plans are covered by the 1974 federal law known as ERISA. As
    such, except for an IRS tax lien, creditors have no access to them.
    The IRS can also go after an IRA for taxes owed. Whether a creditor can
    go after your IRA varies by state. The following link has info on just
    this subject by state: https://www.assetprotectionplanners.com/planning/ira-by-state/


    Thanks, Alan,

    My concerns is not tax liens, as I'm always ok with the IRS and my state,
    I was just wondering about things like slip and fall suits in my home or
    in my short-term-rental property. For my state, I'll have to contact an attorney, as the per the chart.

    I will contact an attorney.

    Thanks again.

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