• Basis for stock received from Crummey Trust?

    From Toller@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 1 19:21:46 2021
    A few years back I received money and stocks from a Crummy Trust. Is the basis for the stock the trust's basis, or the value at which I received it?

    I sorta inherited it, so there should be a new basis.
    But I was sorta gifted it when the money went into the trust, so it should be the trust's basis.
    Which is right?

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Toller on Sat May 1 21:32:20 2021
    Toller <wadelippman@gmail.com> wrote:

    A few years back I received money and stocks from a Crummy Trust.
    Is the basis for the stock the trust's basis, or the value at
    which I received it?

    I sorta inherited it, so there should be a new basis.
    But I was sorta gifted it when the money went into the trust, so
    it should be the trust's basis. Which is right?

    It depends. A CrummEy trust (named after the people who opposed the
    IRS in court, not the quality of the trust) is a grantor trust.
    Normally the beneficiary is considered the grantor to the extent of
    gifts given to the trust that could have been withdrawan - so that
    portion of the trust is considered to have belonged to the
    beneficiary pretty much all along. Most Crummey trusts really have
    only a life insurance policy and not much if anything more. In that
    case there's really nothing to get a stepped up basis in.

    On the other hand some Crummey trusts have assets that generate
    income, and that income is used to pay the insurance premiums. To
    the extent that income might be able to pay insurance premiums, then
    the person who donated that asset is considered the grantor. If
    that's your situation, then there is a stepped up basis on that
    particular asset when the person who contributed it to the trust
    does.

    Unfortunately no one can really give you a good answer without a lot
    more information including knowing exactly what the trust says. You
    need to take the trust to a local CPA or Enrolled Agent, who can get
    all the necessary information and only then be able to give you a
    reliable answer.

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    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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