• DANGER using fake return addresses in this group

    From Jonathan Kamens@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 09:08:34 2024
    This is a public service announcement from the
    maintainer of the server that misc.taxes.moderated
    relies upon to function.

    If you use a fake return address in your postings
    because you don't want to post your real address and
    have it harvested by spammers, then it is incumbent
    upon you to to make sure that it really IS a
    non-working email address, rather than the address of a
    spam-trap honeypot set up by anti-spammers.

    Because if it's a honeypot, and the MTM moderation
    server tries to send an acknowledgment to you in
    response to your submission, then that's going to
    cause the server to be added to anti-spam blacklists,
    impeding its email delivery.


    Specifically (though not exclusively), using
    "@NOSPAMgmail.com" as your return address domain isn't
    as harmless as you think it is:

    $ host NOSPAMgmail.com
    NOSPAMgmail.com has address 65.60.35.76
    NOSPAMgmail.com mail is handled by 10 getblacklisted.NOSPAMgmail.com.

    I hope you see the problem there.

    My server got blacklisted last night because someone in
    this group is using that domain in their return
    address. I can't email them directly about it because,
    obviously, I don't have their real address.

    The server that runs MTM is also my family email
    server. When MTM causes my server to be put onto
    blocklists, it prevents my family's email from being
    delivered. This is not OK.

    To be honest, it's highly unlikely nowadays that using
    a fake domain in your return address is going to
    measurably reduce the amount of spam you receive. First
    of all, most email service providers have good spam
    filters nowadays. Second, believe me, the spammers
    already have your email address. And it's unlikely that
    most of them are wasting time scraping addresses from
    Usenet; it's not a particularly target-rich environment.

    But if you insist on doing this, then you need to make
    sure the domain you're using is actually fake. Go to https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx to look it up
    before putting it in your address.

    Moving forward, any submissions to this group from
    NOSPAMgmail.com will be silently dropped. I do not
    have the time or energy to deal with getting my server
    taken off of blacklists because of this.

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  • From Fred@21:1/5 to Jonathan Kamens on Thu Mar 21 11:49:11 2024
    "Jonathan Kamens" wrote in message news:uthb6i$6ijt$1@jik4.kamens.us...

    This is a public service announcement from the
    maintainer of the server that misc.taxes.moderated
    relies upon to function.

    If you use a fake return address in your postings
    because you don't want to post your real address and
    have it harvested by spammers, then it is incumbent
    upon you to to make sure that it really IS a
    non-working email address, rather than the address of a
    spam-trap honeypot set up by anti-spammers.

    Because if it's a honeypot, and the MTM moderation
    server tries to send an acknowledgment to you in
    response to your submission, then that's going to
    cause the server to be added to anti-spam blacklists,
    impeding its email delivery.


    Specifically (though not exclusively), using
    "@NOSPAMgmail.com" as your return address domain isn't
    as harmless as you think it is:

    $ host NOSPAMgmail.com
    NOSPAMgmail.com has address 65.60.35.76
    NOSPAMgmail.com mail is handled by 10 getblacklisted.NOSPAMgmail.com.

    I hope you see the problem there.

    My server got blacklisted last night because someone in
    this group is using that domain in their return
    address. I can't email them directly about it because,
    obviously, I don't have their real address.

    The server that runs MTM is also my family email
    server. When MTM causes my server to be put onto
    blocklists, it prevents my family's email from being
    delivered. This is not OK.

    To be honest, it's highly unlikely nowadays that using
    a fake domain in your return address is going to
    measurably reduce the amount of spam you receive. First
    of all, most email service providers have good spam
    filters nowadays. Second, believe me, the spammers
    already have your email address. And it's unlikely that
    most of them are wasting time scraping addresses from
    Usenet; it's not a particularly target-rich environment.

    But if you insist on doing this, then you need to make
    sure the domain you're using is actually fake. Go to >https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx to look it up
    before putting it in your address.

    Moving forward, any submissions to this group from
    NOSPAMgmail.com will be silently dropped. I do not
    have the time or energy to deal with getting my server
    taken off of blacklists because of this.


    My apologies. I'm the culprit who used a fake gmail address for anonymity. I've corrected it now but can't change messages already posted.

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    << ------------------------------------------------------- >>
    << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
    << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
    << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
    << >>
    << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
    << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
    << are at www.asktax.org. >>
    << Copyright (2011) - All rights reserved. >>
    << ------------------------------------------------------- >>

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Jonathan Kamens on Thu Mar 21 16:42:10 2024
    Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us> wrote:

    This is a public service announcement from the
    maintainer of the server that misc.taxes.moderated
    relies upon to function.

    If you use a fake return address in your postings
    because you don't want to post your real address and
    have it harvested by spammers, then it is incumbent
    upon you to to make sure that it really IS a
    non-working email address, rather than the address of a
    spam-trap honeypot set up by anti-spammers.

    Because if it's a honeypot, and the MTM moderation
    server tries to send an acknowledgment to you in
    response to your submission, then that's going to
    cause the server to be added to anti-spam blacklists,
    impeding its email delivery.

    Any address of the form mailbox@somedomain.invalid is the
    standards-compliant way to use an invalid email address on From.

    These days, with so many top-level domains allowed, almost anything
    can be a registered domain name that you don't have permission to use.
    The safest way to use an invalid address is to use .invalid as the
    top-level domain.

    . . .

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    << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
    << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
    << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
    << >>
    << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
    << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
    << are at www.asktax.org. >>
    << Copyright (2011) - All rights reserved. >>
    << ------------------------------------------------------- >>

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