• Revenue Ruling 2023-2

    From Taxed and Spent@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 25 18:32:19 2023
    I thought this was pretty ho-hum, the IRS just stating what has been
    known for years. But then I read this article:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alangassman/2023/04/07/revenue-ruling-2023-2-got-it-wrong-the-casse-for-a-stepped-up-basis-when-the-grantor-dies/?sh=234585da5d1a

    I still think these people are grasping at straws, especially since the
    Revenue Ruling cited a couple court decisions as to what "property
    acquired from a decedent" means.

    I am curious as to your thoughts.

    Even more interesting is this:

    "If and when the Tax Court, the Court of Claims, and/or an appellate
    court agree with the position that a step-up in basis has occurred on
    the death of a Grantor, then tax practitioners and their clients will
    question whether the best advice was to not take the step-up, or to take
    the step-up and advise the IRS in the conventional manner available of
    the position taken. Many taxpayers will file an income tax return and
    pay the tax as if no step-up occurred, and then file an amended return
    with prominent disclosure to reduce or eliminate the IRS's ability to
    impose negligence and substantial understatement penalties. "


    If an amended return is filed in order to assert there was a step up in
    basis and the IRS denies that position, is there a time limit for future recovery in the event a court later holds that position was indeed correct?

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Taxed and Spent on Wed Oct 25 19:52:18 2023
    Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> wrote:

    I thought this was pretty ho-hum, the IRS just stating what has
    been known for years. But then I read this article:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alangassman/2023/04/07/revenue-ruling- 2023-2-got-it-wrong-the-casse-for-a-stepped-up-basis-when-the-grant or-dies/?sh=234585da5d1a

    I still think these people are grasping at straws, especially
    since the Revenue Ruling cited a couple court decisions as to what
    "property acquired from a decedent" means.

    I am curious as to your thoughts.

    Even more interesting is this:

    "If and when the Tax Court, the Court of Claims, and/or an
    appellate court agree with the position that a step-up in basis
    has occurred on the death of a Grantor, then tax practitioners and
    their clients will question whether the best advice was to not
    take the step-up, or to take the step-up and advise the IRS in the conventional manner available of the position taken. Many
    taxpayers will file an income tax return and pay the tax as if no
    step-up occurred, and then file an amended return with prominent
    disclosure to reduce or eliminate the IRS's ability to impose
    negligence and substantial understatement penalties. "

    If an amended return is filed in order to assert there was a step
    up in basis and the IRS denies that position, is there a time
    limit for future recovery in the event a court later holds that
    position was indeed correct?

    I've looked at section 1014. It says that there's a step up in
    basis only for situations specified in the statute. Among other
    things it says that there's a step-up in basis for a grantor trust as
    long as the assets of the trust are included in the grantor's estate
    for estate tax purposes. A grantor trust that's not included in the
    grantor's estate is not one of the things listed.

    There is at least one situation that can get a step-up in basis for
    assets that are not included in the grantor's estate, but this is not
    among them.

    I once worked for a lawyer who told a client that he should take a
    specific tax deduction. He told the client that there was a
    reasonable legal basis for taking the deduction, but if it went to
    court they would probably lose. That lawyer was indicted for tax
    fraud.


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