• California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022

    From D L@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 18:17:59 2023
    Hi. I heard that the California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022, is not taxable. But, I got a 1099 Misc. Is it not taxable by the state? Or taxable by both. Thanks.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to D L on Wed Apr 12 19:02:20 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:21:46 PM UTC-7, D L wrote:
    Hi. I heard that the California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022, is not taxable. But, I got a 1099 Misc. Is it not taxable by the state? Or taxable by both. Thanks.

    It's not taxable by CA and it's not taxable by the feds. I advise you to add the amount from the CA 1099-MISC as Other Income. Call it Nontaxable CA MCTR. Then create another entry as an adjustment to gross income with the same name. The income should
    go on Schedule 1 Line 8z and the adjustment on Schedule 1 Line 24z.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to D L on Wed Apr 12 21:35:59 2023
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:17:59 EDT, D L wrote:

    Hi. I heard that the California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022, is
    not taxable. But, I got a 1099 Misc. Is it not taxable by the
    state? Or taxable by both. Thanks.

    It is not taxable by State or Feds.

    The State issued guidance on its website. The IRS dithered for a
    while, but eventually declared that it would not be taxable, under
    the "general welfare" exception:

    <https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-issues-guidance-on-state-tax- payments-to-help-taxpayers>

    The State issued 1099s anyway, as part of their generally non- taxpayer-oriented way of operating. No doubt they figured that if
    they issued one when it was unnecessary _they_ wouldn't have a
    problem. It was irrelevant to them that millions of people were at
    risk of overstating their taxable income because the State issued an unnecessary form.

    In general, not just in this case, just because you receive a 1099
    doesn't necessarily mean the money was taxable; and if you don't
    receive a form the money might still be taxable. The law is that
    you're responsible for stating your income accurately, even if the
    payor messes up.

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    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From D L@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Apr 12 21:36:17 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 4:07:03 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:21:46 PM UTC-7, D L wrote:
    Hi. I heard that the California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022, is not taxable. But, I got a 1099 Misc. Is it not taxable by the state? Or taxable by both. Thanks.

    It's not taxable by CA and it's not taxable by the feds. I advise you to add the amount from the CA 1099-MISC as Other Income. Call it Nontaxable CA MCTR. Then create another entry as an adjustment to gross income with the same name. The income should
    go on Schedule 1 Line 8z and the adjustment on Schedule 1 Line 24z.

    Alan, Thanks a lot.

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  • From D L@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Thu Apr 13 17:27:30 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 6:37:16 PM UTC-7, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:17:59 EDT, D L wrote:

    Hi. I heard that the California Middle Class Tax Refund 2022, is
    not taxable. But, I got a 1099 Misc. Is it not taxable by the
    state? Or taxable by both. Thanks.
    It is not taxable by State or Feds.

    The State issued guidance on its website. The IRS dithered for a
    while, but eventually declared that it would not be taxable, under
    the "general welfare" exception:

    <https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-issues-guidance-on-state-tax- payments-to-help-taxpayers>

    The State issued 1099s anyway, as part of their generally non- taxpayer-oriented way of operating. No doubt they figured that if
    they issued one when it was unnecessary _they_ wouldn't have a
    problem. It was irrelevant to them that millions of people were at
    risk of overstating their taxable income because the State issued an unnecessary form.

    In general, not just in this case, just because you receive a 1099
    doesn't necessarily mean the money was taxable; and if you don't
    receive a form the money might still be taxable. The law is that
    you're responsible for stating your income accurately, even if the
    payor messes up.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...
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    Thanks Stan.
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