• Montana man, 68, begs for moratorium on property taxes after bill reach

    From Ruined by Democrats@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 12 06:37:23 2024
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    A senior from Montana has delivered a viral speech about the sorry state
    of property taxes in the Treasure State.

    “I’m on Social Security, I’m 68-years-old and working just to pay my
    taxes,” says Kurt, in a clip shared on TikTok by Ryan Busse, who is
    running to be the next governor of Montana.

    Kurt claims that over the last couple of years, his annual property taxes
    have soared from $895 to almost $8,000 — an increase of around 790% —
    which he says is like paying almost “$700 a month rent to the state to
    live in our own house.” The state has an Elderly Homeowner/Renter Tax
    Credit, and the maximum credit is $1,150.

    “There needs to be a moratorium on what we have to pay,” he says, adding
    that he’s had to continue working into what should be his retirement
    golden years to cover his mounting property costs. “I’m stubborn enough
    [that] I don’t want to dig into my bank account to pay them.”

    Kurt is one of thousands of Montana homeowners suffering sticker shock
    over recent property tax hikes. He says: “We just can’t take this anymore.
    This was a great place and it still is, but the people that made it great
    can’t afford to live here anymore.”

    Here’s what’s going on in the Treasure State.

    Soaring property values
    There are many reasons why property taxes may increase over time. First
    and foremost, property tax is typically based on a percentage of a home’s assessed value — so if your value goes up, it’s likely that your tax bill
    will too.

    In Kurt’s case, he claims to have bought his property in 1995. In the 29
    years since then, the family home (he does not share where in Montana the property is located) has undoubtedly increased in value.

    According to FRED Economic Data’s house price index for Billings, MT (the state’s most populous city), the average house price at the end of 1995
    was around $103,860 and by the end of 2023 it had soared around 272% to
    more than $387,000.

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    Looking at the data since 1985, the steepest jump in value in Billings and elsewhere in the state occurred between 2021 and 2023 — during and after
    the COVID-19 pandemic, when there was a surge of migration to the state
    and housing demand quickly outpaced supply. This corresponds with Kurt’s complaint that his property taxes have soared “over the last couple of
    years,” which likely occurred because his property value increased.

    Instead of working deep into what should be his retirement years, Kurt
    could sell the family home, collect his capital gains and move somewhere smaller (and with a more manageable tax bill) — but the house holds too
    much sentimental value for him to consider that.

    “My children were raised [there]. They want to get married there, and I
    plan on being there until the very end,” he says — even if that means
    taking winter and summer shifts.

    Other homeowners in Montana, who aren’t quite so attached to their
    properties, may see selling and moving as their only viable option.
    According to a Montana Free Press (MTFP) analysis of revenue department
    data for the 956,000 properties on the state’s property tax rolls in both
    2022 and 2023, the median Montana residential property owner saw a 21%
    hike on their property taxes this year, with typical increases ranging
    between 11% and 35%. That translates into residential tax bills that will
    be $98 to $660 a year more.

    Where do the taxes go?
    Property taxes make up almost 97% of local tax revenue here, considerably
    more than the 71% share for local governments in all U.S. states together, according to a state legislature brief. Property taxes account for 9.9% of
    the tax revenue of the Montana state government, as opposed to 1.7% for
    all the state governments.

    Montana's great reliance on property taxes is possibly due to the
    comparitively lower tax revenue from sales and excise taxes. Montana has
    no state or local sales tax.

    Property taxes are calculated by multiplying the property’s market value
    by its tax rate (1.35% for residential properties) and its mill levies
    (one mill generates $1 for each $1,000 in taxable value). For example, for
    a property worth $400,000 with a tax rate of 1.35% and a mill rate of 650,
    the property tax would be $3,510.

    Almost all property taxes in Montana go towards county and city government services like K-12 schools, law enforcement and fire departments. This
    money does not typically go towards state services, like universities and prisons, which are funded by state income tax.

    As inflation has increased nationwide, this has not only driven up the
    cost of living, but it also inflated the costs of providing public
    services. As a result, some local governments have had to compensate by
    raising property tax rates.

    There’s no easy fix to Montanans’ property tax nightmares. The state
    department of revenue has promised property tax rebates for the 2022 and
    2023 tax years of up to $675 for eligible homeowners, using $350 million
    from the state’s budget surplus.

    While that may help some cash-strapped Montana homeowners, the
    “moratorium” on taxes that Chuck so desperately wants remains highly
    unlikely.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/montana-man-68-begs-moratorium-
    100200538.html

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  • From Trump's Bitch@21:1/5 to steve.bullock@fuck.you on Sun May 12 10:58:20 2024
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    On Sun, 12 May 2024 06:37:23 +0200 (CEST), Ruined by Democrats <steve.bullock@fuck.you> wrote:

    “I’m on Social Security, I’m 68-years-old


    He didn't plan for his retirement. He can sell the house and move into a
    $2k per month studio apartment instead.

    A lot of Baby boomers are not prepared for retirement.




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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Trump's Bitch on Sun May 12 19:42:47 2024
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    Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid> wrote in news:lace9sFofb9U1@mid.individual.net:

    On Sun, 12 May 2024 06:37:23 +0200 (CEST), Ruined by Democrats <steve.bullock@fuck.you> wrote:

    “I’m on Social Security, I’m 68-years-old


    He didn't plan for his retirement. He can sell the house and move into a
    $2k per month studio apartment instead.

    A lot of Baby boomers are not prepared for retirement.

    If your house is paid for, it doesn't make sense to sell it an pay rent - unless you can't physically take care of the house anymore.

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  • From Jonathan Ball's dismay@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun May 12 15:39:22 2024
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    On Sun, 12 May 2024 19:42:47 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    you can't physically take care of the house
    people
    https://www.fairus.org/issues/illegal-immigration



    Visa Overstays
    While the government grants over a million green cards each year that provide permanent residence status, most visas issued are temporary in nature (i.e. nonimmigrant visas) and specify a period of time the alien may stay in the United States. For
    example, typical tourist or business visas (B1/B2 visa) permit aliens to stay in the U.S. no longer than six months in a given year. If an alien stays beyond that period, he or she falls “out of status.”

    Unfortunately, a sizeable portion of illegal aliens in the U.S. consists of aliens overstaying their visas. While estimates have varied over the years, recent numbers suggest that visa overstays account for as much as 40 percent of the illegal alien
    population. According to the most recent data provided by the Department of Homeland Security, in Fiscal Year 2022, nearly 854,000 nonimmigrant visitors violated the terms of their visas and overstayed in the United States.[1] Over the past four years,
    the total rate of visa overstays (as a proportion of those expected to depart) has increased, up from 1.21 percent in Fiscal Year 2019 to 3.67 percent in Fiscal Year 2022.[2]

    In addition to visa overstayers, aliens who do not require a visa or arrive from Visa Waiver Program (VWP) countries also overstay the allowed time. VWP nationals visiting the U.S. on business or pleasure in Fiscal Year 2022 accounted for nearly 100,000
    overstays.

    Size and Cost of Illegal Alien Population
    FAIR estimates that at least 16.8 million illegal aliens resided in the
    United States as of June 2023.[3] Illegal aliens impose significant
    costs on U.S. taxpayers – ranging from shelter, health care,
    educational benefits, welfare and tax credits, and incarceration costs.
    At the start of 2023, the net cost of illegal immigration for United
    States taxpayers – at the federal, state, and local levels – was at
    least $150.7 billion.[4]


    Fast Facts
    There are at least 16.8 million illegal aliens in the United States as of the beginning of 2023.[5]
    In Fiscal Year 2023, a record 3.2 million encounters with illegal aliens were recorded at America’s borders.
    The majority of illegal aliens are from Latin and Central America. The most commonly encountered nations of origin for illegal immigrants encountered in Fiscal Year 2023 included Mexico, Venezuela, Guatemala, Honduras and Cuba.
    Between Fiscal Year 2022-2023, there was a 60 percent increase in illegal aliens encountered in family units.
    In Fiscal Year 2023 alone, nearly 138,000 unaccompanied children were encountered at our borders. That is an average of 378 per day.
    In Fiscal Year 2022, there were 853,955 overstays, at a rate of 3.67 percent of all visitors.
    For nonimmigrants who entered on a student or exchange visitor visa (F, M, or J visa) in Fiscal Year 2022, the overstay rate was 3.5 percent. More than 9,000 Chinese nonimmigrants overstayed, accounting for more than 16% of all student and exchange
    overstays reported.
    Illegal migration costs the American taxpayer approximately $182.1
    billion annually as of the beginning of 2023. Illegal aliens only
    contribute around $31.4 billion in taxes at the state and federal
    levels, meaning that illegal immigration costs American taxpayers a net
    of at least $150.7 billion annually.[6]

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  • From Trump's Bitch@21:1/5 to suck@ra.mentos on Sun May 12 18:19:12 2024
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    On Sun, 12 May 2024 15:39:22 -0600, Jonathan Ball's dismay
    <suck@ra.mentos> wrote:

    Visa Overstays

    Are you a 'tard?




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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Trump's Bitch on Mon May 13 02:58:15 2024
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    Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid> wrote in news:lad84gFs5r7U1@mid.individual.net:

    On Sun, 12 May 2024 15:39:22 -0600, Jonathan Ball's dismay
    <suck@ra.mentos> wrote:

    Visa Overstays

    Are you a 'tard?

    That would be a step up for him.

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  • From Jonathan Ball's dismay@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon May 13 10:43:33 2024
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    On Mon, 13 May 2024 02:58:15 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    That would be a step


    https://www.fairus.org/issues/illegal-immigration



    Visa Overstays
    While the government grants over a million green cards each year that provide permanent residence status, most visas issued are temporary in nature (i.e. nonimmigrant visas) and specify a period of time the alien may stay in the United States. For
    example, typical tourist or business visas (B1/B2 visa) permit aliens to stay in the U.S. no longer than six months in a given year. If an alien stays beyond that period, he or she falls “out of status.”

    Unfortunately, a sizeable portion of illegal aliens in the U.S. consists of aliens overstaying their visas. While estimates have varied over the years, recent numbers suggest that visa overstays account for as much as 40 percent of the illegal alien
    population. According to the most recent data provided by the Department of Homeland Security, in Fiscal Year 2022, nearly 854,000 nonimmigrant visitors violated the terms of their visas and overstayed in the United States.[1] Over the past four years,
    the total rate of visa overstays (as a proportion of those expected to depart) has increased, up from 1.21 percent in Fiscal Year 2019 to 3.67 percent in Fiscal Year 2022.[2]

    In addition to visa overstayers, aliens who do not require a visa or arrive from Visa Waiver Program (VWP) countries also overstay the allowed time. VWP nationals visiting the U.S. on business or pleasure in Fiscal Year 2022 accounted for nearly 100,000
    overstays.

    Size and Cost of Illegal Alien Population
    FAIR estimates that at least 16.8 million illegal aliens resided in the
    United States as of June 2023.[3] Illegal aliens impose significant
    costs on U.S. taxpayers – ranging from shelter, health care,
    educational benefits, welfare and tax credits, and incarceration costs.
    At the start of 2023, the net cost of illegal immigration for United
    States taxpayers – at the federal, state, and local levels – was at
    least $150.7 billion.[4]


    Fast Facts
    There are at least 16.8 million illegal aliens in the United States as of the beginning of 2023.[5]
    In Fiscal Year 2023, a record 3.2 million encounters with illegal aliens were recorded at America’s borders.
    The majority of illegal aliens are from Latin and Central America. The most commonly encountered nations of origin for illegal immigrants encountered in Fiscal Year 2023 included Mexico, Venezuela, Guatemala, Honduras and Cuba.
    Between Fiscal Year 2022-2023, there was a 60 percent increase in illegal aliens encountered in family units.
    In Fiscal Year 2023 alone, nearly 138,000 unaccompanied children were encountered at our borders. That is an average of 378 per day.
    In Fiscal Year 2022, there were 853,955 overstays, at a rate of 3.67 percent of all visitors.
    For nonimmigrants who entered on a student or exchange visitor visa (F, M, or J visa) in Fiscal Year 2022, the overstay rate was 3.5 percent. More than 9,000 Chinese nonimmigrants overstayed, accounting for more than 16% of all student and exchange
    overstays reported.
    Illegal migration costs the American taxpayer approximately $182.1
    billion annually as of the beginning of 2023. Illegal aliens only
    contribute around $31.4 billion in taxes at the state and federal
    levels, meaning that illegal immigration costs American taxpayers a net
    of at least $150.7 billion annually.[6]

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