Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders. >>
An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:--
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders. >>>
An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to
shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders. >>>
An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to
shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 @gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 @gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats
wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
Why is Melania still here?
She violated the terms of her
tourist visa, she worked without
permission, where was the deportation,
where was the prosecution?
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
I don't know if we'd have to do that. The military's job is to protect
the country from invaders.
Skeeter wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 @gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote: >>>> In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
so if i kick you in the nuts ,
i have to kick myself in the nuts
Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:MPG.3e9b508a1614295c98c05c@usnews.blocknews.net:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 @gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats
wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
Why is Melania still here?
She violated the terms of her
tourist visa, she worked without
permission, where was the deportation,
where was the prosecution?
Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks
in the US, documents show
November 05, 2016
WASHINGTON ? Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling
jobs in the United States worth $20,056 that occurred
in the seven weeks before she had legal permission to
work in the country, according to detailed accounting
ledgers, contracts and related documents from 20 years
ago provided to The Associated Press.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/05/trumps-wife-worked-illegally- during-her-first-weeks-in-us-documents-show.html
http://tinyurl.com/gtnck9e
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:32:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Why is Melania still here?
She violated the terms of her
tourist visa, she worked without
permission, where was the deportation,
where was the prosecution?
You owe her reparations for all the abuse she suffered.
Pay up, bigot.
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of >deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
No answer as usual.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.
In article <u0skts$1d6qq$5@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
No answer as usual. Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.
Who said anything about murder? Oh you did. You liberals like to talk
around the topic.
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
No answer as usual. Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 01:06:13 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise >>><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Correct.
There are basically 2 types of migrants.
1. Those who just want to come here, start a new life, earn their living etc. >>2. Those with criminal records, smuggling drugs etc. IOW bad people.
The first group get on US soil, sit down and wait for border control to find them and take them to
a processing center where they are checked out and given a paper to appear in court at a later date.
Most don't.
The solution is stay in Mexico until your paperwork is processed and you have a court date and
cross at a border point and go to court. Trump worked with the Mexican government to facilitate
this. He threatened to cut off trade with Mexico so Mexico had their military patrolling the
borders on the Mexico side.
Right now the borders are effectively open and those words come directly from the border patrol
agents.
We need the labor. In case nobody noticed, there's a labor shortage.
Swill
NP: En Vogue & Salt-N-Pepa - Whatta Man
--
Religion is like a penis.
It's fine to have one.
It's fine to be proud of it.
But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva UkrajĂni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!
On 2023-04-08, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Correct.
There are basically 2 types of migrants.
1. Those who just want to come here, start a new life, earn their living etc. >2. Those with criminal records, smuggling drugs etc. IOW bad people.
The first group get on US soil, sit down and wait for border control to find them and take them to
a processing center where they are checked out and given a paper to appear in court at a later date.
Most don't.
The solution is stay in Mexico until your paperwork is processed and you have a court date and
cross at a border point and go to court. Trump worked with the Mexican government to facilitate
this. He threatened to cut off trade with Mexico so Mexico had their military patrolling the
borders on the Mexico side.
Right now the borders are effectively open and those words come directly from the border patrol
agents.
Yak wrote:
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
You forgot to call dibs on goatherders.
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote: >>> >> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
In article <q4g33ilf9rl1an7dh5sgmuf0ijjc0mo0tu@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
Millions crossing and he thinks 3 examples outweighs that?
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote: >>>> >> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return >>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up. >>
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:04:48 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
I'm also a never-reparations person, until after the Native Americans
get theirs. They are owed before all others.
Mattb wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
citizenship is conditional.
I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
I don't know if we'd have to do that. The military's job is to protect
the country from invaders.
Mattb wrote:
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY
There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
A-telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Are gettin' so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
What a field day for the heat (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
A thousand people in the street (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
Singing songs and a-carryin' signs (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
Mostly say, "Hooray for our side" (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
It's time we stopped
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life, it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away
You might also like
We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Now, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
Mattb wrote:
That is the new Democrats way the far-left radical way. Just don'tMillions crossing and he thinks 3 examples outweighs that?In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those withThat was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
open the border to all illegals?
let the bother the wine store then the Dems would be up in arms.
You're still illiterate. Look a few lines up. 2 million were
deported, and 60% were americans, or about 1 million americans
deported from their own country.
And your only problem is not enough american citizens were deported.
And you're still an idiot.
In article <u0tesi$1jnlk$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?
He never said that either. Why do you make shit up?
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
citizenship is conditional.
No one said that except you.
I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.
Who said he is? You sure spun your way around this one.
On 9/04/2023 1:52 pm, Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:04:48 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
How did sexual orientation make its way into tax?
:-).
Michael
I'm also a never-reparations person, until after the Native Americans
get theirs. They are owed before all others.
Mattb wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.
And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
citizenship is conditional.
I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
The military's job is to our protect our borders from invasions,
which is exactly what is happening.
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Yak wrote:
The military's job is to our protect our borders from invasions,
which is exactly what is happening.
And dead goatherders are your acceptable collateral damage.
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote: >>>>> >> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return >>>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up. >>>
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 09:30:38 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
A conservative. You forget that the Democrats of that time were like the Republicans of
today. Hard line conservatives intent on taking care of themselves.
The Republicans, otoh, were the liberals of the day. Freeing the slaves, empowering the
individual, oh yes and expanding participation in the Dream. The GOP was the liberal
party in the 19th century.
Swill
NP: Foundations - Build Me Up Buttercup
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Swill
NP: Jimmy Ruffin - What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 11:57:41 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
When were these millions done? Under Biden? Was it the
Depression era? When.
I want to fix the current problem, I can't change the past, and none
coming over the border, are owed reparations.
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
It is clear that you are being dishonest and a troll by editing the
thread.
Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
Who would ever reference the past?
Mattb wrote:
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the mostwasn't until
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???wasn't until
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
100% racist.
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
Who would ever reference the past?
Mattb wrote:
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the mostwasn't until
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
100% racist.
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
man, it all belongs to God!
It is His land!
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
No one has.
Michael
In article <qpab3ip3fefbnm93m6q0nq1vs1vhmjk5l0@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
It is clear that you are being dishonest and a troll by editing the
thread.
It's the only way a liberal/atheist can "win".
In article <cp8b3it2rqd7p4k8c8c3sfm0qgiqvniddi@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 11:57:41 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
When were these millions done? Under Biden? Was it the
Depression era? When.
I want to fix the current problem, I can't change the past, and none
coming over the border, are owed reparations.
They aren't owed anything.
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:30:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
Who would ever reference the past?
Mattb wrote:
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the mostwasn't until
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you believe blacks have the right to be racist?
OK Did you have a point about saying we need a open border because
of a event that happened in the 1930s and hasn't happened again.
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to
shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?
Yak wrote:
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not
'open border' then what the hell is?
Why didn't the Texas National Guard stop them?
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not
'open border' then what the hell is?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:27:20 +1000, Michael McLean <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
100% racist.
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
man, it all belongs to God!
Is it. Can you provide evidence?
It is His land!
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
No one has.
Michael
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:29:29 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open >border' then what the hell is?
You have Republicans to thank for that, so shut it.
Swill
On 13/04/2023 2:23 am, Mattb wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:27:20 +1000, Michael McLean
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri CruiseYou're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and >>>>>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat. >>>>>
You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
100% racist.
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
man, it all belongs to God!
Is it. Can you provide evidence?
MattB? Seriously?
Psa_24:1 The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world,
and they that dwell therein.
Is there a new dude on the scene out there with you? :-).
Michael
It is His land!
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until >>>> I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
No one has.
Michael
In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n8cc1v7rob6bdoiobc@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in theThey were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported? >> >>
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
I dunno, it's complicated.
In article <t4od3i92qt08u1ju8n716v6o005rgfvskl@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:30:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go >> >> back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
Who would ever reference the past?
Mattb wrote:
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???wasn't until
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
OK Did you have a point about saying we need a open border because
of a event that happened in the 1930s and hasn't happened again.
The liberals don't know what they are saying.
In article <u174b9$3ujns$1@dont-email.me>, Yak@inbox.com says...
On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?
A closed border means you walk or drive up to a border station and
legally present yourself for asylum. An open border is where you pay the >cartels for permission to cross and almost drown doing it and then just
being shuffled off with food stamps and no direction.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:21:15 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n8cc1v7rob6bdoiobc@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in theThey were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported? >> >>
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
I dunno, it's complicated.
When HH little group get together, it can be easy to forget who said
what, with the way they edit the post. They'll take out the most
important parts of their conversation, leaving only the parts that
they want the rest of the group to see.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:23:47 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <t4od3i92qt08u1ju8n716v6o005rgfvskl@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:30:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.
Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go >> >> back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?
Who would ever reference the past?
Mattb wrote:
How many White and Black people currently live on land stolenfrom
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???wasn't until
I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?
OK Did you have a point about saying we need a open border because
of a event that happened in the 1930s and hasn't happened again.
The liberals don't know what they are saying.
Don't think so, though they have been shown to be very racist toward
naive Americans. Though Blacks can do no wrong.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:36:12 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u174b9$3ujns$1@dont-email.me>, Yak@inbox.com says...
On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?
A closed border means you walk or drive up to a border station and
legally present yourself for asylum. An open border is where you pay the >cartels for permission to cross and almost drown doing it and then just >being shuffled off with food stamps and no direction.
Don't forget free housing and medical care. In NYC, they get motels.
All for entering the USA by breaking the law. They are even given
driver's licenses, does that also allow them to vote? Will illegals be
given the right to vote in federal elections? BTW I do believe those
who legally have green cards should be allowed driver's licenses
although then they would not be illegal.
In article <hugg3idq0klvjbiit8mehjohufeuc0867p@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:36:12 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u174b9$3ujns$1@dont-email.me>, Yak@inbox.com says...
On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote: >> >> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?
A closed border means you walk or drive up to a border station and
legally present yourself for asylum. An open border is where you pay the
cartels for permission to cross and almost drown doing it and then just
being shuffled off with food stamps and no direction.
Don't forget free housing and medical care. In NYC, they get motels.
All for entering the USA by breaking the law. They are even given
driver's licenses, does that also allow them to vote? Will illegals be
given the right to vote in federal elections? BTW I do believe those
who legally have green cards should be allowed driver's licenses
although then they would not be illegal.
No but nothing will stop a liberal from "winning".
My friend from El Salvador gust got his green card and a workable SSN
and a driver license. He's been here 18 years and finally did it. He
says he is happy he can work a real job and pay taxes. He hates
liberals.
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return >>>>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up. >>>>
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to
freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return >>>>>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Republicans are insane.
No, actually they are predictability focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law.
A large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies.
They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less.
All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else.
Many of them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life
and as far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation.
False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Republicans are insane.
I agree.
No, actually they are predictability focused.
Insane does not equal stupid though you wouldn't know that to watch Republicans behave.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law.
Exactly. That's why Reagan's GOP made common cause with the Evangelicals and Trump's GOP
made common cause with the KKK and Nazis. It's all about the votes.
A large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
Yup. Republican states are the poor ones and take the most help from Uncle Sam. I say
its time to stop block grants, revenue sharing or whatever else it's called these days. Go
ahead and shutdown the DofEd. That'll cost Mississippi alone 20% of it's education
funding state wide. Let red states pay their own bills for a change.
And next time Arkansas has a tornado, they can pay for the clean up themselves by
rescinding their latest tax cut. I see no reason for Washington (that means you and me)
to be picking up the tab for a state that's cutting it's own thro . . . er, taxes.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies.
Yup. They know Republicans will cut their taxes and find ways to make Democrats pay their
bills. I want to see their faces when the Dems finally get fed up and yell, "NO!"
They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
You should see 'em down at the food bank in their customized pick up trucks with 25"
chrome wires and neon under lighting, guzzling cold beer while waiting their turn for free
groceries.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less.
Most of them don't even know how many Reps there are in Congress, how many Senators their
state has or how long a Presidential term is. But they still vote those "R" buttons.
All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else.
Which is why, when Republicans are in power, they borrow and spend like there's no
tomorrow. I mean, why not? It's not the taxpayers' money, it's their grandkids' money
and who gives a shit about them? Not Republicans. They lost their family values when
Newt divorced his wife to marry that bimbo he was carrying on with.
Many of them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life
And those who have spend more energy and time cheating on their taxes than they would have
spent just earning a few more dollars.
and as far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
Correction: What they really think is that anybody paying taxes is a fool when there are
so many ways to cheat. Just ask that billionaire who, in four years, paid only $1500 in
income tax.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
Yup.
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation.
Which explains their obsession with attacking the Clintons almost non stop for thirty
years.
False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
Absolutely! Republicans have elevated dirty tricks to levels not imagined half a century
ago! Hell, when Trump ran in 2016, he was caught more than once taking three positions on
the same policy in one day!
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
They almost did that in 2008. Fortunately the Federal Reserve (which the Democrats
invented) managed to prevent the total financial system collapse the Republicans caused
that made the Great Depression so deep and long.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I don't think the Dems will give up that easily. The Republicans might dig a hole, jump
in, and pull it in after them but the Dems have more sense than that.
Swill
I have a problem with assholes who alter my posts. Liars
such as those are actually showing they are unable to
respond to what is written but must instead create a
strawman they can then attack and show how wonderful they
are,
What they are really doing is showing how anything they
touch is open to suspicion. Such people are not to be
believed or trusted.
Ever.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:16:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
I have a problem with assholes who alter my posts. Liars
such as those are actually showing they are unable to
respond to what is written but must instead create a
strawman they can then attack and show how wonderful they
are,
What they are really doing is showing how anything they
touch is open to suspicion. Such people are not to be
believed or trusted.
Ever.
You know what happens when you insult people for no reason? You get your ass kicked and
you just got yours kicked.
Think twice the next time you start throwing around accusations that your party is at
least as guilty of.
Swill
In article <eoeg3i184t9ad5t16vdpmmfk7c9ukbc0ha@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:21:15 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n8cc1v7rob6bdoiobc@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
I dunno, it's complicated.
When HH little group get together, it can be easy to forget who said
what, with the way they edit the post. They'll take out the most
important parts of their conversation, leaving only the parts that
they want the rest of the group to see.
Oh so right. I notice a lot of snipping and avoiding here. Me personally
am on the fence about theism and atheism. I lean toward a creation but
also look deep into physics and stuff. I see issues with both sides. The
only reason I am here is because of how one sided these "atheists" are.
If they don't agree with you they either call you names or run or snip.
Tim and Yap are just kick toys for when I get bored.
Holman will be along soon with his sqwaking "PROVE IT"
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
Swill
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return >>>>>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:18:03 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
I've suggested upgrading the green card system your progressive
buddies rejected it.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:51:58 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <eoeg3i184t9ad5t16vdpmmfk7c9ukbc0ha@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:21:15 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n8cc1v7rob6bdoiobc@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to >> >> >> >> strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
I dunno, it's complicated.
When HH little group get together, it can be easy to forget who said
what, with the way they edit the post. They'll take out the most
important parts of their conversation, leaving only the parts that
they want the rest of the group to see.
Oh so right. I notice a lot of snipping and avoiding here. Me personally
am on the fence about theism and atheism. I lean toward a creation but
also look deep into physics and stuff. I see issues with both sides. The >only reason I am here is because of how one sided these "atheists" are.
If they don't agree with you they either call you names or run or snip.
Tim and Yap are just kick toys for when I get bored.
Holman will be along soon with his sqwaking "PROVE IT"
Holman does that a lot and is also very racist. He also has a thing
for Trump. Posting with them (HH, Swill, Holman and Rudy the
progressive quartet) is like being in a tag match.
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to >>>>>>>> >> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime >>>>>>>> >> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers >>>>>>>> >> >> soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >>>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco >>>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot?
Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump.
The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
Mattb wrote:
I'm interested in fixing today's problems, not bitch and moaning about
what wasn't done in the past as an excuse to do nothing, like you
progressive Democrats are doing.
Yes, because you refuse to offer anything that worked until you've
retried everything that didn't work.
Feel free to give solutions and how to implement them without
violating existing laws. Or is obeying current laws still what was
done in the past?
In article <kndm3idfr08tr7cjogo80l207m6i5kkrev@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:51:58 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <eoeg3i184t9ad5t16vdpmmfk7c9ukbc0ha@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:21:15 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n8cc1v7rob6bdoiobc@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com >> >> >> >says...
Mattb wrote:
They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. ButNo one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to >> >> >> >> >> strip them of their citizenship.
Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?
Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
Who are you replying to?
I dunno, it's complicated.
When HH little group get together, it can be easy to forget who said
what, with the way they edit the post. They'll take out the most
important parts of their conversation, leaving only the parts that
they want the rest of the group to see.
Oh so right. I notice a lot of snipping and avoiding here. Me personally
am on the fence about theism and atheism. I lean toward a creation but
also look deep into physics and stuff. I see issues with both sides. The
only reason I am here is because of how one sided these "atheists" are.
If they don't agree with you they either call you names or run or snip.
Tim and Yap are just kick toys for when I get bored.
Holman will be along soon with his sqwaking "PROVE IT"
Holman does that a lot and is also very racist. He also has a thing
for Trump. Posting with them (HH, Swill, Holman and Rudy the
progressive quartet) is like being in a tag match.
Rudy is nothing but a troll. Swill tries to be like Rudy but less foul >mouthed. I don't know HH. Holman is all about spinning and "PROVE IT"
but never tries to have a conversation. Of course Tim and Yap are
kicktoys.
-hh wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:24:44?PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
trdell12345 says...
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:18:03 -0400, Governor Swill> wrote:
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
I've suggested upgrading the green card system your progressive
buddies rejected it.
Hmm. Haven’t heard that one. I have heard how big of a challenge
it would be to do that in just a couple of years, but that’s not a “no”.
Cards to those who come here "legally" and follow the process.
Agreed, but is that enough? For example, is it the right thing to do
to shut down means to legally apply? Or to slow walk it by using
deliberately discriminatory quotas? In your opinion, what do you think
should be our performance benchmark for how long the maximum
acceptable wait time should be? There’s a lot of DACAs who’ve been
waiting for decades.
It's okay to leave someone in limbo when they're free. Time limits
only apply on incarceration. So limbolock lets us avoid the
solution: spend money for enough immigration courts to deal with
this quickly. Why do visas take so long? Because you don't have a
right to speedy reply, so ignoring people who can't vote saves money.
In article <l9co3ihcibt3jopt0q7p6igoma98dfuq0k@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
Cards to those who come here "legally" and follow the process.
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:18:03 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses >> >>>>> from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
I've suggested upgrading the green card system your progressive
buddies rejected it.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:32:38 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot?
Republicans do.
Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump.
He'll have to do better if he expects to win next year.
The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
And a goodly portion of Republicans feel the same way.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
We learned that from Dennis Hastert decades ago.
If Trump runs, the GOP will lose not only their White House bid, but more seats in
Congress. This rash of anti LGBT legislation, book bannings, Nazi support and attempts at
closing libraries are not going to sit well with voters.
GO TRUMP!
Swill
On 2023-04-16, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next >>>>>>>>> >> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides >>>>>>>>> >> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but >>>>>>>>> >> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders- >>>>>>>>> >> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I live in NY state and it's the same thing... Most of NY is really red, purple at best, but the big
numbers are in NYC, Manhattan in particular so they dictate how the vote goes.
On 2023-04-16, Attila <> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might >>>imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more >>>willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
All good points.
Look at Chicago or NYC.
In Chicago they voted for a candidate who is even more liberal far left than Lightfoot.
Same in NYC.
These people are idiots and are getting what they deserve, crime up the wazoo.
Mattb wrote:
Last time the Republicans addressed the issue, they gave all of them amnesty and invited
more in. So go ahead and vote for them again.
No more amnesty as that has been proven to be just stupid.
Stop bitching and moaning about the past.
I'm interested in fixing today's problems, not bitch and moaning about
what wasn't done in the past as an excuse to do nothing, like you
progressive Democrats are doing.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:47:57 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
-hh wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:24:44?PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
trdell12345 says...
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:18:03 -0400, Governor Swill> wrote:
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
I've suggested upgrading the green card system your progressive
buddies rejected it.
Hmm. Haven?t heard that one. I have heard how big of a challenge
it would be to do that in just a couple of years, but that?s not a ?no?. >>
Cards to those who come here "legally" and follow the process.
Agreed, but is that enough? For example, is it the right thing to do
to shut down means to legally apply? Or to slow walk it by using
deliberately discriminatory quotas? In your opinion, what do you think
should be our performance benchmark for how long the maximum
acceptable wait time should be? There?s a lot of DACAs who?ve been
waiting for decades.
It's okay to leave someone in limbo when they're free. Time limits
only apply on incarceration. So limbolock lets us avoid the
solution: spend money for enough immigration courts to deal with
this quickly. Why do visas take so long? Because you don't have a
right to speedy reply, so ignoring people who can't vote saves money.
Do you want to give illegals the right to vote?
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:32:38 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >>>>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can >>>>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost >>>>>>>>>> >> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are >>>>>>>>>> >> >> already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But >>>>>>>>>> >> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers >>>>>>>>>> >> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net >>>>>>>>>> >> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data >>>>>>>>>> >> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 >>>>>>>>>> >> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full >>>>>>>>>> >> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in >>>>>>>>>> >> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might >>>imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more >>>willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
Well, since we seldom have a good Republican to vote for, no. Yet our
current representatives walk a cautious line on Gun Control. Seattle >Democrats have no say in who we elect as our representatives here.
Crime isn't that bad here except in the summer when the tourists come
around and they bring their big city liberal ways. The Democrats in my
area know most of us are armed and yet murder isn't an issue. They see
it is a progressive Democrat problem in Seattle.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
Yes our federal representatives do seem to do that even Burnie
Sander. Can progressives get any more two faced.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:54:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <eb1r3i59h5q4lo4e9ub07n8um0j0scrs1m@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:32:38 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who >>>>>>>>>> >> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might >>>imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this >>>area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats >>>often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and >>>they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as >>>radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more >>>willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
Well, since we seldom have a good Republican to vote for, no. Yet our >current representatives walk a cautious line on Gun Control. Seattle >Democrats have no say in who we elect as our representatives here.
Crime isn't that bad here except in the summer when the tourists come >around and they bring their big city liberal ways. The Democrats in my
area know most of us are armed and yet murder isn't an issue. They see
it is a progressive Democrat problem in Seattle.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
Yes our federal representatives do seem to do that even Burnie
Sander. Can progressives get any more two faced.
Which is why I supported Trump. He is an egomaniac but his
policies were in line with what I want.
I watched some Dim committee meetings on TV several years
ago and I have never seen a more disgusting display of raw
ego and greed in my life than people like Nadler, Shiff,
Booker, AOC, Waters Schumer, Pelosi and their ilk. I hate
being the same species as those cretins.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 22:44:13 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-16, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>,
trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>,The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie >>>>>>>>>> can
trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To
Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will >>>>>>>>>> >> >> cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of >>>>>>>>>> >> >> next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically >>>>>>>>>> >> >> decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions >>>>>>>>>> >> >> are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s >>>>>>>>>> >> >> ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. >>>>>>>>>> >> >> But
even without that provision, and even once the
border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the >>>>>>>>>> >> >> net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used >>>>>>>>>> >> >> data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the >>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of >>>>>>>>>> >> >> each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States >>>>>>>>>> >> >> nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators >>>>>>>>>> >> >> who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) >>>>>>>>>> >> >> but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? >>>>>>>>>> >> >> full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves >>>>>>>>>> >> >> in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for >>>>>>>>>> >> >> taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that >>>>>>>>>> >> crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San >>>>>>>>>> Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and >>>>>>>>> return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters >>>>>>>>produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. >>>>>>>>So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts >>>>>>>>showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had >>>>>>>>just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. >>>>>>>>They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would >>>>>>>>take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every >>>>>>>>morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out >>>>>>>>on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called >>>>>>>>the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the >>>>>>>>occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, >>>>>>scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think >>>>>>they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I live in NY state and it's the same thing... Most of NY is really red, >>purple at best, but the big
numbers are in NYC, Manhattan in particular so they dictate how the vote >>goes.
Some times it seems like the 'Hunger Games" :-))))
In article <k57r3i19s49843q77m99g4mpcn20qmp0hv@4ax.com>, Attila ><<prochoice@here.now> says...
Should have watched the hearings in Manhattan on crime in New York. The >Democrats started blaming Trump at the very beginning. <36 times his
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:54:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<eb1r3i59h5q4lo4e9ub07n8um0j0scrs1m@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:32:38 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:18:59 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<9odm3itc5dvarp7kvt64qkdi126oe45gf3@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >> >>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >> >>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >> >>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
But when election time rolls around do they support the
party even if the candidate is an idiot? Biden the Senile
Bastard was elected by those who were willing to vote for
anyone at all other than Trump. The entire Dim party line
has been "anybody but Trump" and if he suddenly announced he
ws not running the entire party would go into meltdown.
Well, since we seldom have a good Republican to vote for, no. Yet our
current representatives walk a cautious line on Gun Control. Seattle
Democrats have no say in who we elect as our representatives here.
Crime isn't that bad here except in the summer when the tourists come
around and they bring their big city liberal ways. The Democrats in my
area know most of us are armed and yet murder isn't an issue. They see
it is a progressive Democrat problem in Seattle.
At least we now know how someone can work for the government
for 50 years and become a millionaire.
Yes our federal representatives do seem to do that even Burnie
Sander. Can progressives get any more two faced.
Which is why I supported Trump. He is an egomaniac but his
policies were in line with what I want.
I watched some Dim committee meetings on TV several years
ago and I have never seen a more disgusting display of raw
ego and greed in my life than people like Nadler, Shiff,
Booker, AOC, Waters Schumer, Pelosi and their ilk. I hate
being the same species as those cretins.
name came up> Then they turned around and said crime was down. Then they >looked really stupid trying to defend Bragg.
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
The immigration judge system should be expanded as needed and only to
the extent that is reasonable. expand the immigration judge system as
needed and to which is reasonable.
Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary states
and cities or deported as they choose
In article <m91r3ipdtq0vo0lgiv0ed3b7ce85sp2i3t@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:47:57 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
-hh wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:24:44?PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
trdell12345 says...
On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:18:03 -0400, Governor Swill> wrote:
I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.
I've suggested upgrading the green card system your progressive
buddies rejected it.
Hmm. Haven?t heard that one. I have heard how big of a challenge
it would be to do that in just a couple of years, but that?s not a ?no?. >> >>
Cards to those who come here "legally" and follow the process.
Agreed, but is that enough? For example, is it the right thing to do
to shut down means to legally apply? Or to slow walk it by using
deliberately discriminatory quotas? In your opinion, what do you think >> >> should be our performance benchmark for how long the maximum
acceptable wait time should be? There?s a lot of DACAs who?ve been
waiting for decades.
It's okay to leave someone in limbo when they're free. Time limits
only apply on incarceration. So limbolock lets us avoid the
solution: spend money for enough immigration courts to deal with
this quickly. Why do visas take so long? Because you don't have a
right to speedy reply, so ignoring people who can't vote saves money.
Do you want to give illegals the right to vote?
Word has it they already do.
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws. Biden got stuck with cleaning up the mess.
The immigration judge system should be expanded as needed and only to
the extent that is reasonable. expand the immigration judge system as
needed and to which is reasonable.
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested in
Hunter Biden.
Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary states
and cities or deported as they choose
And how would you find them?
"Mattb" <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:602r3il1lcik3h80n67c8dgorjch8p3all@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 22:44:13 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-16, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>,
trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> >trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie >>>>>>>>>>> can
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To >>>>>>>>>>> >> >Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> But
even without that provision, and even once the
border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that >>>>>>>>>>> >> crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>>
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San >>>>>>>>>>> Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and >>>>>>>>>> return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters >>>>>>>>>produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. >>>>>>>>>So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts >>>>>>>>>showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had >>>>>>>>>just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. >>>>>>>>>They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would >>>>>>>>>take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every >>>>>>>>>morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out >>>>>>>>>on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called >>>>>>>>>the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the >>>>>>>>>occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, >>>>>>>scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think >>>>>>>they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who >>>>>understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I live in NY state and it's the same thing... Most of NY is really red, >>>purple at best, but the big
numbers are in NYC, Manhattan in particular so they dictate how the vote >>>goes.
Some times it seems like the 'Hunger Games" :-))))
Going on right now in downtown Chicago..
"Mattb" <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote in message news:602r3il1lcik3h80n67c8dgorjch8p3all@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 22:44:13 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-16, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>,
trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> >trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie >>>>>>>>>>> can
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To >>>>>>>>>>> >> >Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> But
even without that provision, and even once the
border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that >>>>>>>>>>> >> crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>>
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San >>>>>>>>>>> Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and >>>>>>>>>> return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters >>>>>>>>>produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. >>>>>>>>>So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts >>>>>>>>>showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had >>>>>>>>>just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. >>>>>>>>>They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would >>>>>>>>>take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every >>>>>>>>>morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out >>>>>>>>>on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called >>>>>>>>>the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the >>>>>>>>>occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, >>>>>>>scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think >>>>>>>they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who >>>>>understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I live in NY state and it's the same thing... Most of NY is really red, >>>purple at best, but the big
numbers are in NYC, Manhattan in particular so they dictate how the vote >>>goes.
Some times it seems like the 'Hunger Games" :-))))
Going on right now in downtown Chicago..
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be a tie between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws. Biden got stuck with cleaning up the mess.
The immigration judge system should be expanded as needed and only to
the extent that is reasonable. expand the immigration judge system as needed and to which is reasonable.
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested in
Hunter Biden.
Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary states
and cities or deported as they choose
And how would you find them?
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long
Hunter Biden.
ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
crap?
You catch them as they enter.Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary statesAnd how would you find them?
and cities or deported as they choose
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
I would welcome Charles
Manson into my home before any of them
Which is why I supported Trump. He is an egomaniac but his
policies were in line with what I want.
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
I would welcome Charles
Manson into my home before any of them
What's your address?
Swill
Mattb wrote:
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long
Hunter Biden.
ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
crap?
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
You catch them as they enter.Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary statesAnd how would you find them?
and cities or deported as they choose
And the ones we don't.
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws.
Biden got stuck with cleaning up the mess.
On 2023-04-17, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Mattb" <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:602r3il1lcik3h80n67c8dgorjch8p3all@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 22:44:13 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-16, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
<trdell12345@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3dud4hge1gtipr8e9ui@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim >>>>>>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201qd9l3s3191g1tg6h1i@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> trdell12345
@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhmi9gp8quo4ft4tg0jm@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> >trdell12345The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support, >>>>>>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie >>>>>>>>>>>> can
@gmail.com says...
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Democrats wrote:
In article <sro1vf$84j8$77@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> border as invaders.
An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> next
year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> are
already here.
One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> ?right to
shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> But
even without that provision, and even once the
border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children. >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders, >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> in
knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.
<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> >> crosses
from other than a entry point?
I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they. >>>>>>>>>>>>
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San >>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.
Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Democrats.
In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and >>>>>>>>>>> return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters >>>>>>>>>>produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. >>>>>>>>>>So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts >>>>>>>>>>showing up.
I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had >>>>>>>>>>just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. >>>>>>>>>>They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would >>>>>>>>>>take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.
They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every >>>>>>>>>>morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.
They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out >>>>>>>>>>on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.
When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called >>>>>>>>>>the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the >>>>>>>>>>occupants removed.
Problem solved.
They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be >>>>>>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, >>>>>>>>scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think >>>>>>>>they would run like hell..
The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to >>>>>>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability >>>>>>focused.
Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this >>>>> area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A
large number of them are dependent on government programs of
some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
those who have not earned it. Basically income
redistribution.
These people look at what they have and support those they
trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They
line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
even more, whether it is free medical care, college
education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.
They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
nothing about economics and care even less. All they care
about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
money, their experience is that the government always has
money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as
far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,
and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
perceive as trying to end this situation. False
accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.
When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
day at Disneyland.
At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who >>>>>>understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
pull it in after them.
I live in NY state and it's the same thing... Most of NY is really red, >>>>purple at best, but the big
numbers are in NYC, Manhattan in particular so they dictate how the vote >>>>goes.
Some times it seems like the 'Hunger Games" :-))))
Going on right now in downtown Chicago..
My wife says the same thing re: Hunger Games
Can't wait until the DNC convention in Chicago. It's going to make 68 look like a trip to the local
amusement park.
Mattb wrote:
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long
Hunter Biden.
ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
crap?
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
You catch them as they enter.Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary statesAnd how would you find them?
and cities or deported as they choose
And the ones we don't.
Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote in >news:0bbt3ih26v4p7pdk5ga51ph4rbs6gedur9@4ax.com:
Will Antifa and Black Lives Matter use this as an excuse to loot or
cause further destruction? After what happened in Chicago, it's clear
that many parents aren't doing their job. There is a clear
correlation between parents who don't do their job and what happens in
society.
What do you propose be done about that?
Will Antifa and Black Lives Matter use this as an excuse to loot or
cause further destruction? After what happened in Chicago, it's clear
that many parents aren't doing their job. There is a clear
correlation between parents who don't do their job and what happens in society.
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
Yep, and they controlled the House
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u1kh53$370m6$3@dont-email.me...
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be
a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws.
Which laws exactly has it been proven he violated?
Scout wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u1kh53$370m6$3@dont-email.me...
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be
a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws.
Which laws exactly has it been proven he violated?
So much for your expertise. This is common knowledge amongst
amyone who knows what happenning. Your continued spouting off
without doing any research shows what a simple child you are.
Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote in news:0bbt3ih26v4p7pdk5ga51ph4rbs6gedur9@4ax.com:
Will Antifa and Black Lives Matter use this as an excuse to loot or
cause further destruction? After what happened in Chicago, it's clear
that many parents aren't doing their job. There is a clear
correlation between parents who don't do their job and what happens in society.
What do you propose be done about that?
Scout wrote:
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
Yep, and they controlled the House
You really are this stupid.
Scout wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u1kh53$370m6$3@dont-email.me...
Mattb wrote:
The border was better under Trump, which shows how bad a President
Biden is. I thought Trump was the worse and now it seems to be
a tie
between Biden and Trump as to which did his job worse.
Tiny violated the laws.
Which laws exactly has it been proven he violated?
So much for your expertise. This is common knowledge amongst
amyone who knows what happenning. Your continued spouting off
without doing any research shows what a simple child you are.
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote
Mattb wrote:
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long
Hunter Biden.
ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
crap?
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
Yep, and they controlled the House, and could pass that bill in the Senate >which they also controlled.
So why didn't they?
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 07:03:59 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote
Mattb wrote:
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long >>>> ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
Hunter Biden.
crap?
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
Yep, and they controlled the House, and could pass that bill in the Senate >>which they also controlled.
So why didn't they?
You're right. When the Republicans owned the Senate, House and Oval office under Trump
and Bush, and the Senate and House under Clinton and Obama, why didn't THEY do anything
about it? After all, the Dems don't have as much problem with it as the Reps but when in
power, all the GOP does is grant amnesties to those already here and invite more in.
Swill
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill ><governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>, >governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post. >>
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill >><governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 01:43:29 -0400, Governor Swill the racist <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
You do know this is just a newsgroup? People come here to share and
some to promote an agenda.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>, >governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
What about Swill being an idiot and racist? :-))
On 4/19/2023 11:10 AM, Mattb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 01:43:29 -0400, Governor Swill the racist <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
You do know this is just a newsgroup? People come here to share and
some to promote an agenda.
You come here to tell a bunch of lies in favor of your neo-Nazi agenda.
In article <qlb04i1679e7a3ceusj3rkirpu5otucb8l@4ax.com>, trdell12345 >@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >> >>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
What about Swill being an idiot and racist? :-))
I will have to do further research. I don't like pulling the race card.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:43:12 -0600, Skeeter <nomail@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
In article <emW%L.2142401$iS99.689445@fx16.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 4/19/2023 11:10 AM, Mattb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 01:43:29 -0400, Governor Swill the racist
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
You do know this is just a newsgroup? People come here to share and
some to promote an agenda.
You come here to tell a bunch of lies in favor of your neo-Nazi agenda.
I would like to see an example of his neo nazi agenda. Or are you just >trying to troll?
This is Rudy and he is a troll. Swill and he are much alike.
In article <emW%L.2142401$iS99.689445@fx16.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 4/19/2023 11:10 AM, Mattb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 01:43:29 -0400, Governor Swill the racist
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
You do know this is just a newsgroup? People come here to share and
some to promote an agenda.
You come here to tell a bunch of lies in favor of your neo-Nazi agenda.
I would like to see an example of his neo nazi agenda. Or are you just
trying to troll?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id <MPG.3ea9d7732821354398c422@usnews.blocknews.net> wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post. >>>
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
He is a forger because he altered my post in order to
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>, >governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post. >>
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
He is a forger because he altered my post in order to change
the meaning. Why waste time on such people? If they don't
like what you say they simply change it to say something
they do like.
On 4/19/2023 5:22 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id
<MPG.3ea9d7732821354398c422@usnews.blocknews.net> wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
He is a forger because he altered my post in order to
No, he didn't.
On 4/19/2023 5:22 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id
<MPG.3ea9d7732821354398c422@usnews.blocknews.net> wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
He is a forger because he altered my post in order to
No, he didn't.
You're right. When the Republicans owned the Senate, House and Oval office under Trump
and Bush, and the Senate and House under Clinton and Obama, why didn't THEY do anything
about it? After all, the Dems don't have as much problem with it as the Reps but when in
power, all the GOP does is grant amnesties to those already here and invite more in.
Did Biden do better?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 10:12:48 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
You're right. When the Republicans owned the Senate, House and Oval office under Trump
and Bush, and the Senate and House under Clinton and Obama, why didn't THEY do anything
about it? After all, the Dems don't have as much problem with it as the Reps but when in
power, all the GOP does is grant amnesties to those already here and invite more in.
Did Biden do better?
Yes, actually, he did. He didn't grant amnesty to five million illegal aliens OR invite
another five million into the country.
Swill
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:09:28 -0700, Alan Bond
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id ><dh00M.304358$Sgyc.219101@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 4/19/2023 5:22 PM, Attila wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:48:57 -0600, Skeeter
<nomail@invalid.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id
<MPG.3ea9d7732821354398c422@usnews.blocknews.net> wrote:
In article <8nvu3itgliiek862f4ikd8hhjlc0raobbj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:46:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:24:43 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<4r6s3il4ohd56jacant78ot33a3sv8cogf@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:49:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>>>
Seeing Dims lie is nothing new.
Do you know of any Republicans who don't?
Sorry. I don't dialog with forgers and liars.
The real reason you don't want to talk to me is that I burn your bullshit lies with actual
FACTS.
Having already lost your ass in debates here with me, among others, you don't dare risk
embarrassing yourself again.
Pity. You embarrass yourself and every thinking human every time you post.
Swill
Well I don't see you as a forger so that's out.
He is a forger because he altered my post in order to
No, he didn't.
I sent a post that began "Democrats are . . " He altered it
to say "Republicans are . . ."
See my origional post:
<ooll3ilf4r5h6kcofei76ringfhnf5tud3@4ax.com>
His alteration:
<hnqm3iprntss8984ga6166kqktofdc3ren@4ax.com>
He is a liar and a forger.
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:u1knck$37o4i$4@dont-email.me...
Mattb wrote:
Guess who passes the initial budget. But is more interested inAll you have is blame. Who had both the Senate and House not that long
Hunter Biden.
ago? Why didn't they do anything other than pass radical far-left
crap?
Read the Constitution. Budget bills have to originate in the House.
Yep, and they controlled the House, and could pass that bill in the Senate >which they also controlled.
So why didn't they?
You catch them as they enter.Illegal aliens currently in the US should be sent to sanctuary states >>>>> and cities or deported as they chooseAnd how would you find them?
And the ones we don't.
End up working illegally
In article <u0sktg$1d6qq$3@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
Mattb wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
Mattb wrote:
That's the righties imaginary "Open border".The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?
What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?
So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.
Simple liberal milked down response. It has nothing to do with skin
color. There are Chinese crossing both borders, there are people from
Syria crossing. No one knows anything about them. We get to feed and
house them while our vets starve on the street. Use a legal entry point,
do a background check. You know, shit that works?
Progressive Democrats do not like our veterans. Progressive Democrats
do not like the border laws we have, so they ignore them. Progressive Democrats don't like the police, so we have high crime.
In short, we > are allowing the Marxist version of Progressive Democrats to control
us and we get what we get.
On 4/27/2023 8:36 AM, Mattb wrote:
Progressive Democrats do not like our veterans. Progressive Democrats
do not like the border laws we have, so they ignore them. Progressive
Democrats don't like the police, so we have high crime.
Of course, you have demonstrable proof of all these assertions, right?
Your assertions are better termed childish middle-school-level lies.
In short, we > are allowing the Marxist version of Progressive Democrats to control
us and we get what we get.
Describe what is "Marxist" about these "Progressive Democrats."
Describe how they will "control" us.
I expect you to run away and not answer any of this in a useful,
honest set of replies. I'm sure you won't disappoint.
In article <1uel4il0fsn1iiojeaqh4v54oovqr43pdb@4ax.com>
Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
Get a education.
Get an education.
LOL
They will need to get rid of the
constitution to get full control.
On 4/27/2023 8:36 AM, Mattb wrote:
Progressive Democrats do not like our veterans. Progressive Democrats
do not like the border laws we have, so they ignore them. Progressive
Democrats don't like the police, so we have high crime.
Of course, you have demonstrable proof of all these assertions, right?
Your assertions are better termed childish middle-school-level lies.
In short, we > are allowing the Marxist version of Progressive Democrats to control
us and we get what we get.
Describe what is "Marxist" about these "Progressive Democrats."
Describe how they will "control" us.
I expect you to run away and not answer any of this in a useful,
honest set of replies. I'm sure you won't disappoint.
Get a education.
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:09:00 -0700, K? gi? m?o lŕ sâu b? <forgers@su.ck> wrote:
On 4/27/2023 8:36 AM, Mattb wrote:
Progressive Democrats do not like our veterans. Progressive Democrats
do not like the border laws we have, so they ignore them. Progressive
Democrats don't like the police, so we have high crime.
Of course, you have demonstrable proof of all these assertions, right?
Your assertions are better termed childish middle-school-level lies.
In short, we > are allowing the Marxist version of Progressive Democrats to control
us and we get what we get.
Describe what is "Marxist" about these "Progressive Democrats."
Describe how they will "control" us.
I expect you to run away and not answer any of this in a useful,
honest set of replies. I'm sure you won't disappoint.
Ah! Then you understand how Matt works. Good on you. He'll be back alright, but not, as
you point out with any useful or honest reply. He'll be back with further accusations.
And even if he manages to get one intelligent, well articulated post out, it won't last.
When we engaged in a lengthy discussion of illegal immigration and possible solutions, it
was a struggle everyday to not match his angry term. Keeping the discussion civil and
dispassionate became *hard work*. That's why I don't deal with him anymore. He isn't
worth the effort
Swill
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:17:09 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
In article <1uel4il0fsn1iiojeaqh4v54oovqr43pdb@4ax.com>
Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
Get a education.
Get an education.
LOL
Matt has admitted his inferior writing skills before. His excuse was that all his working
life he had secretaries to do for him. <chuckle>
Swill
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 11:18:55 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
They will need to get rid of the
constitution to get full control.
The only politician urging that is a Republican.
Swill
Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
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