• Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second Amendment is unlimited."

    From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Fri Oct 18 09:48:20 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.freespeech, talk.politics.guns
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    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    Vote Trump! wrote:
    Is pure Democrat hoplophobia.

    Wannabe facist dictators have good reason to be hoplophobic.

    Too bad school children have good reason to be hoplophobic.

    Shooting school children is the American way and Trump supports it 100%

    Rudey forgery.


    Read it again, scumbag little man Jonathan D Ball...you are no more than
    a failed solar city installer and Suckramento bungalow trash pretending
    to be Phil Hendrie, but giving blow jobs at the TA glory Hole and
    ducking fights at the Jolly Kone like you always do...

    Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

    And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

    Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
    Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
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    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu Nov 14 12:34:08 2024
    XPost: Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.alt.politics.trump, talk.politics.guns, alt.california
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics

    On 10/18/2024 3:06 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Siri Cruise wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    Vote Trump! wrote:

    Is pure Democrat hoplophobia.

    Wannabe facist dictators have good reason to be hoplophobic.

    :-D The wannabe fascists dictators are the ones pushing for more guns.

    Too bad school children have good reason to be hoplophobic.

    From an AI overview:

    Hoplophobia is

    A pseudo-Greek word. It's bullshit.


    - The belief that weapons have a will of their own, separate from the
    user
    No one believes that. What people believe, and it is unequivocally and irrefutably true, is that guns lower the cost, to the murderer, of successfully committing murder. A sociopath bent on indiscriminate murder might take a pistol
    with a 10 round magazine (largest legal in California) into a crowded bar and easily kill half a dozen or more people. The same sociopath who takes a baseball
    bat into a bar with the same goal might at most kill one and seriously injure a couple more before being subdued.

    It's simple price theory. When you lower the price or cost of something, people who want to consume the "good" or "service" consume more of it. If you lower the
    price of gasoline, people will buy less fuel-efficient cars and drive greater distances. If you lower the price or cost of murder by making guns readily available, people who formulate the thought to commit murder will commit more murder. Guns don't cause people to formulate the thought to commit murder, but for those who formulate the thought, guns make it less costly, i.e. easier, to commit it.

    There's no such thing as "hoplophobia" as the crazed frenzied gun-fondlers conceive of it. No one believes that guns or other weapons have a will of their own. That's simply a lie the the crazed frenzied gun-fondlers like scooter and KKKlaun Schittenpantzen repeat and delude themselves into believing. It's simply
    a lie.

    --
    Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

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