• US Military Defector Was A Trump Supporter Fleeing To Asylum In North K

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    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald
    Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized
    zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North Korea's leader Kim
    Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake hands during a meeting
    on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and
    South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019.
    Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, Rage, is
    shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S. President
    Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book won’t be released until next week, but several U.S. media outlets
    on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of personal letters
    that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as “Your Excellency” and
    hailing their “deep and special friendship,” even as the wider U.S.-North
    Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in Singapore in June
    2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by the U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump “every minute we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that remains a
    precious memory,” according to CNN, which says it obtained transcripts of
    the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise. After their Singapore meeting, Trump
    described Kim as “far beyond smart,” according to the Post. The paper said Trump boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a
    graphic description of how he killed his uncle, Jang Song Thaek. The
    powerful Jang was executed in late 2013 for treason.

    Those comments mirror an interview Trump gave to VOA immediately after his Singapore summit, when Trump said Kim was “smart, loves his people, [and]
    he loves his country.”

    Excessive praise?

    For the book, Woodward says he obtained access to 25 Trump-Kim letters, although it’s not clear how much of the correspondence will be included.

    So far, the excerpts contained no huge surprises about the Trump-Kim relationship, parts of which Trump has already made public. However,
    analysts say the correspondence reveals important insights about each
    man’s personality and negotiating style.

    “It’s interesting to see how you can see Kim’s personality refracted
    through these letters,” said Jung Pak, a former CIA analyst who now works
    at the Washington-based Brookings Institution.

    “Surrounded by sycophants his entire life and as an observer and student
    of excessive displays of admiration that enveloped his father and
    grandfather, Kim Jong Un almost certainly understands how to weaponize
    praise and prey on one’s insecurities and desire for greatness,” said Pak,
    who recently wrote the book Becoming Kim Jong Un.

    Unlikely friendship

    Trump and Kim didn’t always get along. In 2017, the two regularly
    exchanged insults, with Trump calling Kim “Little Rocket Man” and Kim
    slamming Trump as a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard.” At one point, Trump threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea.

    The tensions dissipated after Trump, a former real estate developer and
    reality television host who often claims an unmatched deal-making ability, became the first sitting U.S. president to meet a North Korean leader.
    Trump later claimed the two “fell in love.” FILE - In this photo taken
    June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S.
    President Donald Trump (L) during a break in talks at their summit in Singapore. FILE - In this photo taken June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader
    Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S. President Donald Trump (L) during a break
    in talks at their summit in Singapore.

    The relationship has held firm, even after North Korea last year resumed short-range ballistic missile tests and walked away from nuclear
    negotiations.

    If he wins reelection in November, Trump has said he will reach a deal
    “very quickly” with Kim. Trump’s opponent, former Vice President Joe
    Biden, has said he will not continue Trump’s personal outreach to Kim, signaling a return to a more traditional U.S. posture.

    Impact on future talks

    Some now fear the publication of the private Trump-Kim letters risks
    offending North Korean sensitivities and upsetting future talks.

    “That’s privileged diplomatic communication,” said Mark P. Barry, a
    veteran Korea observer and associate editor of the International Journal
    on World Peace.

    The matter is also tricky, Barry said, because Kim’s words are typically treated with the utmost respect in authoritarian North Korea.

    “The worst that could happen is that internally Kim could appear to be a supplicant to Trump,” he says.

    North Korea has not responded to the release of the correspondence, but Pyongyang may not be too surprised, since Trump previously tweeted out one
    of Kim’s letters in July 2018.

    “It won’t affect Kim Jong Un’s attitude that much," Lee Sang-sin of the
    Korean Institute for National Unification, said. "Kim understood the possibility of leaking," he said.

    Kathryn Botto, a research analyst in the Asia Program at the Carnegie
    Endowment for International Peace, said she wouldn’t be surprised if Kim
    cited the release of the letters as a reason for refusing to hold talks.

    “More evidence of disrespect from the U.S. or something like that,” she
    said of a possible North Korean response.

    “But in reality [Kim’s] willingness to hold future talks is based on the potential of securing sanctions relief or other changes in the U.S.
    negotiating position, and of course this doesn't change that."

    Cracks emerge?

    North Korea has for months boycotted the talks, which began to break down
    after the February 2019 summit in Hanoi ended without a deal. Trump and
    Kim met once more in June 2019 at the demilitarized zone separating the
    two Koreas, briefly raising hopes the negotiations could be revived.

    A month after the DMZ meeting, though, Kim wrote to Trump “with a new
    tone,” apparently upset that the U.S.-South Korea joint military exercises
    had not been fully stopped, CNN reports.

    "I am clearly offended and I do not want to hide this feeling from you,”
    Kim told Trump. “I am really, very offended.”

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    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald
    Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized
    zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North Korea's leader Kim
    Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake hands during a meeting
    on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and
    South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019.
    Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, Rage, is
    shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S. President
    Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book won’t be released until next week, but several U.S. media outlets
    on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of personal letters
    that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as “Your Excellency” and
    hailing their “deep and special friendship,” even as the wider U.S.-North
    Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in Singapore in June
    2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by the U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump “every minute we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that remains a
    precious memory,” according to CNN, which says it obtained transcripts of
    the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise. After their Singapore meeting, Trump
    described Kim as “far beyond smart,” according to the Post. The paper said Trump boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a
    graphic description of how he killed his uncle, Jang Song Thaek. The
    powerful Jang was executed in late 2013 for treason.

    Those comments mirror an interview Trump gave to VOA immediately after his Singapore summit, when Trump said Kim was “smart, loves his people, [and]
    he loves his country.”

    Excessive praise?

    For the book, Woodward says he obtained access to 25 Trump-Kim letters, although it’s not clear how much of the correspondence will be included.

    So far, the excerpts contained no huge surprises about the Trump-Kim relationship, parts of which Trump has already made public. However,
    analysts say the correspondence reveals important insights about each
    man’s personality and negotiating style.

    “It’s interesting to see how you can see Kim’s personality refracted
    through these letters,” said Jung Pak, a former CIA analyst who now works
    at the Washington-based Brookings Institution.

    “Surrounded by sycophants his entire life and as an observer and student
    of excessive displays of admiration that enveloped his father and
    grandfather, Kim Jong Un almost certainly understands how to weaponize
    praise and prey on one’s insecurities and desire for greatness,” said Pak,
    who recently wrote the book Becoming Kim Jong Un.

    Unlikely friendship

    Trump and Kim didn’t always get along. In 2017, the two regularly
    exchanged insults, with Trump calling Kim “Little Rocket Man” and Kim
    slamming Trump as a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard.” At one point, Trump threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea.

    The tensions dissipated after Trump, a former real estate developer and
    reality television host who often claims an unmatched deal-making ability, became the first sitting U.S. president to meet a North Korean leader.
    Trump later claimed the two “fell in love.” FILE - In this photo taken
    June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S.
    President Donald Trump (L) during a break in talks at their summit in Singapore. FILE - In this photo taken June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader
    Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S. President Donald Trump (L) during a break
    in talks at their summit in Singapore.

    The relationship has held firm, even after North Korea last year resumed short-range ballistic missile tests and walked away from nuclear
    negotiations.

    If he wins reelection in November, Trump has said he will reach a deal
    “very quickly” with Kim. Trump’s opponent, former Vice President Joe
    Biden, has said he will not continue Trump’s personal outreach to Kim, signaling a return to a more traditional U.S. posture.

    Impact on future talks

    Some now fear the publication of the private Trump-Kim letters risks
    offending North Korean sensitivities and upsetting future talks.

    “That’s privileged diplomatic communication,” said Mark P. Barry, a
    veteran Korea observer and associate editor of the International Journal
    on World Peace.

    The matter is also tricky, Barry said, because Kim’s words are typically treated with the utmost respect in authoritarian North Korea.

    “The worst that could happen is that internally Kim could appear to be a supplicant to Trump,” he says.

    North Korea has not responded to the release of the correspondence, but Pyongyang may not be too surprised, since Trump previously tweeted out one
    of Kim’s letters in July 2018.

    “It won’t affect Kim Jong Un’s attitude that much," Lee Sang-sin of the
    Korean Institute for National Unification, said. "Kim understood the possibility of leaking," he said.

    Kathryn Botto, a research analyst in the Asia Program at the Carnegie
    Endowment for International Peace, said she wouldn’t be surprised if Kim
    cited the release of the letters as a reason for refusing to hold talks.

    “More evidence of disrespect from the U.S. or something like that,” she
    said of a possible North Korean response.

    “But in reality [Kim’s] willingness to hold future talks is based on the potential of securing sanctions relief or other changes in the U.S.
    negotiating position, and of course this doesn't change that."

    Cracks emerge?

    North Korea has for months boycotted the talks, which began to break down
    after the February 2019 summit in Hanoi ended without a deal. Trump and
    Kim met once more in June 2019 at the demilitarized zone separating the
    two Koreas, briefly raising hopes the negotiations could be revived.

    A month after the DMZ meeting, though, Kim wrote to Trump “with a new
    tone,” apparently upset that the U.S.-South Korea joint military exercises
    had not been fully stopped, CNN reports.

    "I am clearly offended and I do not want to hide this feeling from you,”
    Kim told Trump. “I am really, very offended.”

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