Alludes to a battle in the Philippines in 1971.
Anyone have a clue as to that action? I know that many small Battles
occurred there that never openly logged. But 4,500 rounds fired from
this ship at this battle is of interest. That is serious Amount of Ammo.
https://www.travel-mi.com/USS-Edson.html#gsc.tab=0
On 4/9/23 17:48, PaxPerPoten wrote:
Alludes to a battle in the Philippines in 1971.
Anyone have a clue as to that action? I know that many small Battles
occurred there that never openly logged. But 4,500 rounds fired from
this ship at this battle is of interest. That is serious Amount of Ammo.
https://www.travel-mi.com/USS-Edson.html#gsc.tab=0
Yes, the claim is "of interest".
I'd ask more of the 'museum staff'.
Here are 5 thoughts.
I was filling a major's billet on the 3rd Marine Division staff
in Embarkation in 1972 and was in the Philippines about 4 times
for a total of around 3 to 4 weeks.
T#1 There was an ongoing problem with communist rebels, that caused
Marcos to declare martial law in 1972. But I have trouble
thinking that a US Navy ship fired in support of it.
#2 In 1972 we had a Marine platoon going through combat training
in a jungle training area with blanks and BFAs on their M-16s,
and they got pinned down for a while by these communist 'troops'
that were really doing live firing!!!.
#3 A fellow Marine officer was in wrong place at wrong time and
was killed by these communist 'troops' while they did a bank robbery.
#4 There was a major naval gun firing range on a smaller Philippine
island.
#5 There is no mention of caliber. So, is that 4,500 5", or .50 cal.?
It wouldn't take long to fire 4,500 .50 cal rounds for crew
familiarization.
Good luck. Be sure to let us know if your find out more.
On 4/10/2023 9:32 AM, a425couple wrote:Ammo.
On 4/9/23 17:48, PaxPerPoten wrote:
Alludes to a battle in the Philippines in 1971.
Anyone have a clue as to that action? I know that many small Battles
occurred there that never openly logged. But 4,500 rounds fired from
this ship at this battle is of interest. That is serious Amount of
They had the much better 5 inch/54 Mark 42
https://www.travel-mi.com/USS-Edson.html#gsc.tab=0
Yes, the claim is "of interest".
I'd ask more of the 'museum staff'.
Here are 5 thoughts.
I was filling a major's billet on the 3rd Marine Division staff
in Embarkation in 1972 and was in the Philippines about 4 times
for a total of around 3 to 4 weeks.
T#1 There was an ongoing problem with communist rebels, that caused
Marcos to declare martial law in 1972. But I have trouble
thinking that a US Navy ship fired in support of it.
#2 In 1972 we had a Marine platoon going through combat training
in a jungle training area with blanks and BFAs on their M-16s,
and they got pinned down for a while by these communist 'troops'
that were really doing live firing!!!.
#3 A fellow Marine officer was in wrong place at wrong time and
was killed by these communist 'troops' while they did a bank robbery.
#4 There was a major naval gun firing range on a smaller Philippine
island.
#5 There is no mention of caliber. So, is that 4,500 5", or .50 cal.?
It wouldn't take long to fire 4,500 .50 cal rounds for crew
familiarization.
That article mentions one round every 5 seconds. That fits the
Auto-loader 5"x38".
Yes. That fits, But the Edson did not have the 5"x38.
For the 1970s,Good luck. Be sure to let us know if your find out more.
According to some, the DD946 had no .50 aboard, but good Gunnery Chiefs usually stashed some of that in the Voids for a rainy day. I suspect
that Auto-loader 5X38 would be the Artillery of choice. 3" would be more
for AA. Any way you load it 4,500 rounds of expended brass is
impressive. In earlier years we had firing runs on Marcos's HUKS. Nasty bunch. We had to bribe our way through them with Gold, when the
Philippines were retaken. I had a Marine cousin that was shot and
drowned in the river fighting at the end of the war. He made it through
the island hopping, but ended in the Philippines.
On 4/10/23 18:28, PaxPerPoten wrote:
On 4/10/23 18:28, PaxPerPoten wrote:
On 4/10/2023 9:32 AM, a425couple wrote:Ammo.
On 4/9/23 17:48, PaxPerPoten wrote:
Alludes to a battle in the Philippines in 1971.
Anyone have a clue as to that action? I know that many small Battles
occurred there that never openly logged. But 4,500 rounds fired from
this ship at this battle is of interest. That is serious Amount of
https://www.travel-mi.com/USS-Edson.html#gsc.tab=0
Yes, the claim is "of interest".
I'd ask more of the 'museum staff'.
Here are 5 thoughts.
I was filling a major's billet on the 3rd Marine Division staff
in Embarkation in 1972 and was in the Philippines about 4 times
for a total of around 3 to 4 weeks.
T#1 There was an ongoing problem with communist rebels, that caused
Marcos to declare martial law in 1972. But I have trouble
thinking that a US Navy ship fired in support of it.
#2 In 1972 we had a Marine platoon going through combat training
in a jungle training area with blanks and BFAs on their M-16s,
and they got pinned down for a while by these communist 'troops'
that were really doing live firing!!!.
#3 A fellow Marine officer was in wrong place at wrong time and
was killed by these communist 'troops' while they did a bank robbery.
#4 There was a major naval gun firing range on a smaller Philippine
island.
#5 There is no mention of caliber. So, is that 4,500 5", or .50 cal.?
It wouldn't take long to fire 4,500 .50 cal rounds for crew
familiarization.
That article mentions one round every 5 seconds. That fits theThey had the much better 5 inch/54 Mark 42
Auto-loader 5"x38".
Yes. That fits, But the Edson did not have the 5"x38.
Rate of fire As built/designed: 40 rounds per minute automatic Down-rated to 28 rounds per minute in 1968>>
Good luck. Be sure to let us know if your find out more.
According to some, the DD946 had no .50 aboard, but good Gunnery Chiefs usually stashed some of that in the Voids for a rainy day. I suspectFor the 1970s,
that Auto-loader 5X38 would be the Artillery of choice. 3" would be more for AA. Any way you load it 4,500 rounds of expended brass is impressive. In earlier years we had firing runs on Marcos's HUKS. Nasty bunch. We had to bribe our way through them with Gold, when the Philippines were retaken. I had a Marine cousin that was shot and
drowned in the river fighting at the end of the war. He made it through the island hopping, but ended in the Philippines.
I would be fine believing the USS Edson fired 4,500 rounds
into Vietnam.
I would be fine believing they fired 4,500 rounds at a Naval Gunfire
Training Range in the Philippines.
Ireally doubt they fired 5" in support of Marcos in the Philippines.
To explore further, I'd suggest
1. contacting the museum, or
2. try looking for USN groups on Facebook, either USN Retired, or
USN DD crewmen.
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