• Re: UK Suggests Its Warships WIll Breech Russian Grain Blockade

    From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to Mighty Wannabe on Wed May 25 19:01:52 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.usa

    On 5/25/2022 11:46 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    25.BX945 wrote on 5/24/2022 1:10 AM:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847419/Royal-Navy-escort-ships-carrying-Ukrainian-grain-Black-Sea.html


    British warships could be sent in to protect freighters
    carrying crucial Ukrainian grain and break Putin's blockade
    of Black Sea ports that is threatening to cause a world
    food crisis

    . . .

      Ok ... Russia just can't permit this. Selling grain
      enriches its foe and MUST be prevented. Sound
      straight-up military logic.

      Shooting WILL break out between UK and Russian forces
      and it all goes WAY downhill from there, fast.

      So, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED.


    Russia doesn't even have to get into a protracted war with the UK like
    it is doing with the Ukraine. Russia is totally capable of wiping the
    British isles off the map in one shot.

    That of course would be suicide for Russia. Nato , the US and Eu would
    respond out of necessity. And fast to keep China and India out of it.
    A definite no-win situation for everyone. I do believe the 11th Airborne reincarnation in Alaska(Known as the Arctic Legions) are a
    countermeasure. Belarus has tossed its hand in with the Ukraine also.
    Some pretty cutting edge weaponry, troops and training are either in
    Finland or on the way. Things are getting dicey. Russian Troops sliced
    through Ukrainian lines in the Donbas and Uncle Joe Biden said yes to
    armed intervention on a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Putin now has his
    high tech Syrian Barrel bombers on site in Ukraine.

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  • From Mighty Wannabe@21:1/5 to Rudy Crayola on Thu May 26 01:33:16 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.usa

    Rudy Crayola wrote on 5/25/2022 8:01 PM:
    On 5/25/2022 11:46 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    25.BX945 wrote on 5/24/2022 1:10 AM:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847419/Royal-Navy-escort-ships-carrying-Ukrainian-grain-Black-Sea.html


    British warships could be sent in to protect freighters
    carrying crucial Ukrainian grain and break Putin's blockade
    of Black Sea ports that is threatening to cause a world
    food crisis

    . . .

    Ok ... Russia just can't permit this. Selling grain
    enriches its foe and MUST be prevented. Sound
    straight-up military logic.

    Shooting WILL break out between UK and Russian forces
    and it all goes WAY downhill from there, fast.

    So, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED.


    Russia doesn't even have to get into a protracted war with the UK
    like it is doing with the Ukraine. Russia is totally capable of
    wiping the British isles off the map in one shot.

    That of course would be suicide for Russia.

    I don't think so. It is amazing how fast Putin has modernized Russia's
    military in a short two decades.

    Nato , the US and Eu would respond out of necessity.

    Now, that will be suicide. I speculate many of the self-preserving NATO
    member would drag their feet in answering the Uncle Sam's call to fight
    Russia. Nobody wants to be nuked for no good reason. I speculate Poland
    will be smacked hard again as bad as in WWI and WWII when the shit hit
    the fan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_during_World_War_I

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_(1939%E2%80%931945)

    And fast to keep China and India out of it.
    A definite no-win situation for everyone. I do believe the 11th
    Airborne reincarnation in Alaska (Known as the Arctic Legions) are a countermeasure. Belarus has tossed its hand in with the Ukraine also.

    Belarus will definitely be on the Russian side. They know what's best
    for them.

    Some pretty cutting edge weaponry, troops and training are either in
    Finland or on the way.

    This is not WWII. Finland cannot defend against Russia's new super-duper
    Sarmat II. They are stupid to get into this fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk51Cf4vdoU


    Things are getting dicey. Russian Troops sliced through Ukrainian
    lines in the Donbas

    Putin was giving Zelensky a chance to come to his senses. Now Zelensky
    has gone full puppet dictator. He has declared martial law, nationalized
    all news/TV stations and banned all opposition parties. Now Putin's
    gloves are off.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/24/martial-law-ukraine-russia-attack/6925581001/

    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/zelensky-bans-opposition-parties-tv-news-nationalized-in-clampdown/


    and Uncle Joe Biden said yes to armed intervention on a Chinese
    invasion of Taiwan.

    That's the only answer he can give, whether he meant it or not.

    Putin now has his high tech Syrian Barrel bombers on site in Ukraine.

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to Mighty Wannabe on Thu May 26 04:30:41 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.usa

    On 5/26/2022 12:33 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    Rudy Crayola wrote on 5/25/2022 8:01 PM:
    On 5/25/2022 11:46 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    25.BX945 wrote on 5/24/2022 1:10 AM:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847419/Royal-Navy-escort-ships-carrying-Ukrainian-grain-Black-Sea.html


    British warships could be sent in to protect freighters
    carrying crucial Ukrainian grain and break Putin's blockade
    of Black Sea ports that is threatening to cause a world
    food crisis

    . . .

      Ok ... Russia just can't permit this. Selling grain
      enriches its foe and MUST be prevented. Sound
      straight-up military logic.

      Shooting WILL break out between UK and Russian forces
      and it all goes WAY downhill from there, fast.

      So, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED.


    Russia doesn't even have to get into a protracted war with the UK
    like it is doing with the Ukraine. Russia is totally capable of
    wiping the British isles off the map in one shot.

    That of course would be suicide for Russia.

    I don't think so. It is amazing how fast Putin has modernized Russia's military in a short two decades.

    In less then 3 months the Ukrainian military has created several
    modernized junkyards, full of Russian recycled Armor.

    Nato , the US and Eu would respond out of necessity.

    Now, that will be suicide. I speculate many of the self-preserving NATO member would drag their feet in answering the Uncle Sam's call to fight Russia.

    Actually the call will be from a gas and food starved EU.

    Nobody wants to be nuked for no good reason. I speculate Poland
    will be smacked hard again as bad as in WWI and WWII  when the shit hit
    the fan.

    Actually Poland and Kissinger are calling for the Ukraine to cede off
    real estate to Russia.




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_during_World_War_I

    Perhaps you should read Micheners book "Poland".


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_(1939%E2%80%931945)

    And fast to keep China and India out of it.
    A definite no-win situation for everyone. I do believe the 11th
    Airborne reincarnation in Alaska (Known as the Arctic Legions) are a
    countermeasure. Belarus has tossed its hand in with the Ukraine also.

    Belarus will definitely be on the Russian side. They know what's best
    for them.

    Belarus has sent some of its finest to fight in the Ukraine now.

    Some pretty cutting edge weaponry, troops and training are either in
    Finland or on the way.

    This is not WWII. Finland cannot defend against Russia's new super-duper Sarmat II. They are stupid to get into this fight.

    I do believe you have a penchant for ignoring history and the will of
    the Finns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk51Cf4vdoU


    Things are getting dicey. Russian Troops sliced through Ukrainian
    lines in the Donbas

    Putin was giving Zelensky a chance to come to his senses. Now Zelensky
    has gone full puppet dictator. He has declared martial law, nationalized
    all news/TV stations and banned all opposition parties. Now Putin's
    gloves are off.

    And his ass is hanging out. Whatta target for his many Russian
    competitors. Russia is royally fucked for economics and his constituents
    won't tolerate that long. This mess has pissed the Chinese money moguls
    off also.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/24/martial-law-ukraine-russia-attack/6925581001/


    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/zelensky-bans-opposition-parties-tv-news-nationalized-in-clampdown/



    and Uncle Joe Biden said yes to armed intervention on a Chinese
    invasion of Taiwan.

    That's the only answer he can give, whether he meant it or not.

    Uncle Joe hasn't a clue as to what day it is even.

    Putin now has his high tech Syrian Barrel bombers on site in Ukraine.





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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to Mighty Wannabe on Fri Jun 3 00:33:40 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.usa

    On 5/25/2022 11:46 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    25.BX945 wrote on 5/24/2022 1:10 AM:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847419/Royal-Navy-escort-ships-carrying-Ukrainian-grain-Black-Sea.html


    British warships could be sent in to protect freighters
    carrying crucial Ukrainian grain and break Putin's blockade
    of Black Sea ports that is threatening to cause a world
    food crisis

    . . .

      Ok ... Russia just can't permit this. Selling grain
      enriches its foe and MUST be prevented. Sound
      straight-up military logic.

      Shooting WILL break out between UK and Russian forces
      and it all goes WAY downhill from there, fast.

      So, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED.


    Russia doesn't even have to get into a protracted war with the UK like
    it is doing with the Ukraine. Russia is totally capable of wiping the
    British isles off the map in one shot.

    That of course would be suicide for Russia. Nato , the US and Eu would
    respond out of necessity. And fast to keep China and India out of it.
    A definite no-win situation for everyone. I do believe the 11th Airborne reincarnation in Alaska(Known as the Arctic Legions) are a
    countermeasure. Belarus has tossed its hand in with the Ukraine also.
    Some pretty cutting edge weaponry, troops and training are either in
    Finland or on the way. Things are getting dicey. Russian Troops sliced
    through Ukrainian lines in the Donbas and Uncle Joe Biden said yes to
    armed intervention on a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Putin now has his
    high tech Syrian Barrel bombers on site in Ukraine.

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  • From Mighty Wannabe@21:1/5 to Leper on Fri Jun 3 05:00:19 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.usa

    Leper wrote on 5/26/2022 5:30 AM:
    On 5/26/2022 12:33 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    Rudy Crayola wrote on 5/25/2022 8:01 PM:
    On 5/25/2022 11:46 AM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:
    25.BX945 wrote on 5/24/2022 1:10 AM:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847419/Royal-Navy-escort-ships-carrying-Ukrainian-grain-Black-Sea.html


    British warships could be sent in to protect freighters
    carrying crucial Ukrainian grain and break Putin's blockade
    of Black Sea ports that is threatening to cause a world
    food crisis

    . . .

    Ok ... Russia just can't permit this. Selling grain
    enriches its foe and MUST be prevented. Sound
    straight-up military logic.

    Shooting WILL break out between UK and Russian forces
    and it all goes WAY downhill from there, fast.

    So, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED.


    Russia doesn't even have to get into a protracted war with the UK
    like it is doing with the Ukraine. Russia is totally capable of
    wiping the British isles off the map in one shot.

    That of course would be suicide for Russia.

    I don't think so. It is amazing how fast Putin has modernized
    Russia's military in a short two decades.

    In less then 3 months the Ukrainian military has created several
    modernized junkyards, full of Russian recycled Armor.

    Zelensky will soon be living next door to you. Just like most Uncle
    Sam's puppet dictators, he will end up living in exile in the US.

    Ukraine war: Zelensky says Russia controls a fifth of Ukrainian territory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61675915

    Ukraine war in maps: Tracking the Russian invasion https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682




    Nato , the US and Eu would respond out of necessity.

    Now, that will be suicide. I speculate many of the self-preserving
    NATO member would drag their feet in answering the Uncle Sam's call
    to fight Russia.

    Actually the call will be from a gas and food starved EU.

    Nobody wants to be nuked for no good reason. I speculate Poland
    will be smacked hard again as bad as in WWI and WWII when the shit
    hit the fan.

    Actually Poland and Kissinger are calling for the Ukraine to cede off
    real estate to Russia.




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_during_World_War_I

    Perhaps you should read Micheners book "Poland".


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_(1939%E2%80%931945)

    And fast to keep China and India out of it.
    A definite no-win situation for everyone. I do believe the 11th
    Airborne reincarnation in Alaska (Known as the Arctic Legions) are a
    countermeasure. Belarus has tossed its hand in with the Ukraine also.

    Belarus will definitely be on the Russian side. They know what's best
    for them.

    Belarus has sent some of its finest to fight in the Ukraine now.

    Some pretty cutting edge weaponry, troops and training are either in
    Finland or on the way.

    This is not WWII. Finland cannot defend against Russia's new
    super-duper Sarmat II. They are stupid to get into this fight.

    I do believe you have a penchant for ignoring history and the will of
    the Finns.


    I believe the Finns have secretly paid Turkey's Erdogan to veto their application. They will never get in.

    Turkey Refuses to Lift Veto on Finland’s, Sweden’s, NATO Bids https://balkaninsight.com/2022/05/19/turkey-refuses-to-lift-veto-on-finlands-swedens-nato-bids/



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk51Cf4vdoU


    Things are getting dicey. Russian Troops sliced through Ukrainian
    lines in the Donbas

    Putin was giving Zelensky a chance to come to his senses. Now
    Zelensky has gone full puppet dictator. He has declared martial law,
    nationalized all news/TV stations and banned all opposition parties.
    Now Putin's gloves are off.

    And his ass is hanging out. Whatta target for his many Russian
    competitors. Russia is royally fucked for economics and his
    constituents won't tolerate that long. This mess has pissed the
    Chinese money moguls off also.

    Actually the US is hurting itself badly. Prices are soaring in the US.
    It's now only 5 months to November. The Democrats might lose both houses
    if this drags on.



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/24/martial-law-ukraine-russia-attack/6925581001/


    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/zelensky-bans-opposition-parties-tv-news-nationalized-in-clampdown/



    and Uncle Joe Biden said yes to armed intervention on a Chinese
    invasion of Taiwan.

    That's the only answer he can give, whether he meant it or not.

    Uncle Joe hasn't a clue as to what day it is even.

    Putin now has his high tech Syrian Barrel bombers on site in Ukraine.






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