• Seeking advice on mobile-phone charging.

    From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 16 10:48:10 2021
    I have a powered hub connected to the computer.

    One of the sockets on this hub is a "charging port" designed to rapid
    charge.

    Is it safer to stay with the usual slower charging, and does this
    "rapid charging" shorten the mobile battery life?

    P

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  • From Nikolaj Lazic@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 16 00:53:31 2021
    Dana Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:48:10 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> napis'o:
    I have a powered hub connected to the computer.

    One of the sockets on this hub is a "charging port" designed to rapid
    charge.

    Is it safer to stay with the usual slower charging, and does this
    "rapid charging" shorten the mobile battery life?

    It affects battery life. But sometimes you need faster charging.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr on Tue Nov 16 12:19:38 2021
    On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 00:53:31 -0000 (UTC), Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:

    Dana Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:48:10 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> napis'o:
    I have a powered hub connected to the computer.

    One of the sockets on this hub is a "charging port" designed to rapid
    charge.

    Is it safer to stay with the usual slower charging, and does this
    "rapid charging" shorten the mobile battery life?

    It affects battery life. But sometimes you need faster charging.

    Thought so. I'll go back to slow method, with the fast charge as a
    back up.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to pj@jostle.com on Mon Nov 15 20:21:29 2021
    In article <h8s5pgd6uv3td5gt206bn7gtt6vbemid97@4ax.com>, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    Is it safer to stay with the usual slower charging,

    slightly.

    and does this
    "rapid charging" shorten the mobile battery life?

    it does, but not enough to matter.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Nikolaj Lazic on Tue Nov 16 14:21:08 2021
    Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
    Dana Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:48:10 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> napis'o:
    I have a powered hub connected to the computer.

    One of the sockets on this hub is a "charging port" designed to rapid charge.

    Is it safer to stay with the usual slower charging, and does this
    "rapid charging" shorten the mobile battery life?

    It affects battery life. But sometimes you need faster charging.

    Battery life is affected by three things:

    1. Excess heat generated during charging
    2. Leaving batteries 'full' for an extended time
    3. Deep discharge

    #1 you can test by feeling your phone as it charges. If it gets much above
    40C then there might be an impact on battery life.

    #2 isn't affected by fast charging, merely by keeping your phone at 100% for too long. Some phones have a setting where they will try to guess when you remove your phone from the charger - eg if you plug in your phone at night
    and always wake up at 7am, it'll slow charge to 80% overnight and then do
    the top 20% from maybe 5 to 6am.

    #3 is prevented by a cutoff circuit - ie when the phone says '0%' the cutoff circuit activates but there's still some actual capacity remaining (might
    be 5-10% reserve capacity).

    However, most 'fast charging' isn't really that fast. Phones are shipping
    with 30/40/50W chargers these days. A USB port that gives you 10W instead
    of 2.5W isn't really 'fast' on that scale.

    Theo

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