In short: his document is only to propagate his agenda unchallenged -
misinformation and all.
Continue your analysis, please. What the hell does he actually get out
of it?
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <xn0nxnwor3fgri2009@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it IS his document so he can say whatever he wants.
yes he can, just as people can (and do) refute his bullshit.
Maybe you
should ask for your money back if he charged anything for reading it.
the problem isn't money. it's that he's deliberately and knowingly
misleading people. it's not new either. he's done this before with
other products.
Obviously the response to this should be a competing document written by
you and other approved partners with the correct information.
On 2023-02-03 18:17, badgolferman wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <F_fDL.322956$t5W7.232360@fx13.iad>, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Well, it IS his document so he can say whatever he wants.
Maybe you
should ask for your money back if he charged anything for
reading it.
If he had any balls, he'd "publish" it as a form of Wiki and
let it find
its bottom by more people correcting it until it stabilized.
But he'd rather keep his narrative. Can't have reality in there.
exactly.
You’ll be happy to know I have never looked at his document.
I’m capable of
finding problems with my iPhone on my own.
There's nothing wrong with people making docs, or guides or help
lists or whatever
There's nothing wrong with people doing so and asking others for
their input and/or corrections.
The issue with this dude is he is imposing his narrative on it with
correct and incorrect information and refusing to correct things
that are wrong to some degree.
In short: his document is only to propagate his agenda unchallenged
- misinformation and all.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <F_fDL.322956$t5W7.232360@fx13.iad>, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Well, it IS his document so he can say whatever he wants. Maybe you
should ask for your money back if he charged anything for reading it.
If he had any balls, he'd "publish" it as a form of Wiki and let it find >>> its bottom by more people correcting it until it stabilized.
But he'd rather keep his narrative. Can't have reality in there.
exactly.
You’ll be happy to know I have never looked at his document. I’m capable of
finding problems with my iPhone on my own.
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
Continue your analysis, please. What the hell does he actually get out
of it?
That is a fine question.
In article <LahDL.484489$8_id.474058@fx09.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
the only person who is hurling insults is the one who created the
'document', who insults anyone that refutes his claims.
In article <m_gDL.999303$GNG9.609517@fx18.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Continue your analysis, please. What the hell does he actually get out
of it?
That is a fine question.
mostly trolling.
In article <LahDL.484489$8_id.474058@fx09.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
the only person who is hurling insults is the one who created the
'document', who insults anyone that refutes his claims.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <LahDL.484489$8_id.474058@fx09.iad>, Hank Rogers
<hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
the only person who is hurling insults is the one who created the
'document', who insults anyone that refutes his claims.
As an uninterested party I would have to refute that claim. I see more insults directed to sms by you than vice versa.
Continue your analysis, please. What the hell does he actually get out >>> of it?
That is a fine question.
mostly trolling.
Maybe so, but you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be a
troll.
Some have accused you of being a troll as well. Hurling the
troll insult has become meaningless. You should wean yourself.
You seem very knowledgeable, and you _could_ be helpful. Does it
ever bother you that you usually refrain from that?
If SMS is the evil anti apple, so be it, but don't let him grind
you down. You can rise above it, and pull yourself (and apple) out
of the shit pit. Think about it man. Get a newsreader that has a
filter function, if he bothers you so much.
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
the only person who is hurling insults is the one who created the 'document', who insults anyone that refutes his claims.
As an uninterested party I would have to refute that claim. I see more insults directed to sms by you than vice versa.
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
Good. When will this start?
In article <jNhDL.322960$t5W7.189814@fx13.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
In article <6AhDL.429132$Tcw8.376575@fx10.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Continue your analysis, please. What the hell does he actually get out >>>>> of it?
That is a fine question.
mostly trolling.
Maybe so, but you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be a
troll.
that is not true.
disagreeing is fine, and often helpful because people can learn from
each other.
the problem is when someone claims things to fact when they're clearly
not, deliberately misleading others.
worse, he doesn't want to learn anything from his many errors, which is
why he ignores and bashes everyone who refutes him. this is not new
either, he's been doing this for a *long* time, at least since the 90s.
Some have accused you of being a troll as well. Hurling the
troll insult has become meaningless. You should wean yourself.
You seem very knowledgeable, and you _could_ be helpful. Does it
ever bother you that you usually refrain from that?
i don't refrain from that. if someone asks a legitimate question and i
know the answer (or know where to find the answer) i will post it.
If SMS is the evil anti apple, so be it, but don't let him grind
you down. You can rise above it, and pull yourself (and apple) out
of the shit pit. Think about it man. Get a newsreader that has a
filter function, if he bothers you so much.
filters are for cowards, and i don't like it when people are misled, especially when it's deliberate.
In article <jNhDL.322960$t5W7.189814@fx13.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
In article <jqiDL.7866$Aoja.2652@fx01.iad>, Hank Rogers
<hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
Yes, and to get to collaboration, *negotiate*.
it's rather difficult to negotiate with someone who claims that only he
has the correct answers and everyone else is wrong.
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
Yes, and to get to collaboration, *negotiate*.
In article <jqiDL.7866$Aoja.2652@fx01.iad>, Hank Rogers
<hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Why not stop the meaningless insults and produce a better, more
accurate document? You have the knowledge. You could do it.
as i said, the proper way to do this is *collaborate*.
Yes, and to get to collaboration, *negotiate*.
it's rather difficult to negotiate with someone who claims that only he
has the correct answers and everyone else is wrong.
As an uninterested party I would have to refute that claim. I see more insults directed to sms by you than vice versa.
Take his document and rewrite it the
way you want. Im sure you can find some people here willing to help you
out.
There is no upside in responding to endless
incorrect information and no upside in hurling insults.
He is free to e-mail me with any corrections, additions, etc., and I'm
happy to make changes.
The issue he's run into is that I've been
extremely careful to provide references and citations for nearly every
item in the list
so it's highly unlikely that there are more than a
handful of errors, and those errors are likely because one platform or
the other has added or removed features.
But in this case, one cult hasn't even produced a "document",
preferring instead to hurl insults and quarrel endlessly ala Arlen.
You have _never_ found a single fact from me _ever_ to be wrong.
Nobody has.
You have _never_ found a single fact from me _ever_ to be wrong.
Nobody has.
many people have, and continue to do so.
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