I have ten Google apps on my Apple iPhone 14.
- Gmail
- Google Maps
- Chrome
- Drive
- Docs
- Google Translate
- Voice
- YouTube
- Google Calendar
- Google Photos

I know that’s a lot of Google apps and somewhat ironic considering I use an Apple product, but I honestly use all of them quite a bit. I could maybe uninstall Photos and Calendar, but even my iOS Calendar app polls the
Google Calendar server. This is just my opinion but I think the Google apps
are more polished and functional than the equivalent Apple apps.

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are not available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones. That
and I’m just used to iOS and don’t want to learn a whole new operating system and all the tips and tricks over again.

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badgolferman wrote:

I have ten Google apps on my Apple iPhone 14.
- Gmail
- Google Maps
- Chrome
- Drive
- Docs
- Google Translate
- Voice
- YouTube
- Google Calendar
- Google Photos

It is interesting that Apple pays Google, as I recall, the biggest single
check that _any_ company on the planet pays Google, simply for the
privilege of spying on Apple customers (using those apps above).

We could delve into detail, but it puts Apple's profit motive over privacy
in stark terms given Google is also (AFAIK) Apple's biggest customer.

Looking at those apps, here's the nearest Android FOSS equivalent, where
those reading this should keep in mind the FOSS apps are always better.

- Gmail ==> FairMail beats it on Android - dunno about iOS equivalents
- Google Maps ==> nobody is as good but Apple Maps isn't too far behind
on iOS and OSMAnd+ works fine most of the time
- Chrome ==> Ungoogled Chromium should be available for iOS & Android
- Drive ==> Don't use
- Docs ==> Don't use the functionality
- Google Translate ==> Don't use the functionality
- Voice ==> In the USA GV is simply the best but in Europe WA works fine
- YouTube ==> no equivalent on iOS but there are some but NewPipe
on Android wins hands down over both the iOS equivalents
- Google Calendar ==> Plenty of calendar apps exist on both platforms
- Google Photos ==> Don't use the functionality

You didn't list the Google GCam camera which is, surprisingly, pretty good
but I don't know if a port exists for iOS like they do for Android.

Likewise, Google Recorder is _fantastic_ as it gives you a transcript in a
text format that is done offline which the iPhone can only do differently.

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badgolferman wrote:

I have ten Google apps on my Apple iPhone 14.
- Gmail
- Google Maps
- Chrome
- Drive
- Docs
- Google Translate
- Voice
- YouTube
- Google Calendar
- Google Photos

I know that’s a lot of Google apps and somewhat ironic considering I use an Apple product, but I honestly use all of them quite a bit. I could maybe uninstall Photos and Calendar, but even my iOS Calendar app polls the
Google Calendar server. This is just my opinion but I think the Google apps are more polished and functional than the equivalent Apple apps.

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are not available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones. That and I’m just used to iOS and don’t want to learn a whole new operating system and all the tips and tricks over again.

It amazes me that you can use newstap to type in very much with an
iphone. Do you have an external keyboard? Or maybe an ipad?
Whatever, it sure works well for you.

Newstap is great; one of the very few iphone apps worth a damn. But
using a (postage stamp sized) keyboard on a tiny iphone keeps me
from doing anything but very short posts. Maybe my elderly eyesight
and dexterity just ain't good enough :)

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Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:

Looking at those apps, here's the nearest Android FOSS equivalent, where those reading this should keep in mind the FOSS apps are always better.

LOL, good one.

Do you write your own material? Or do you hire comedy writers?

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Jolly Roger wrote:

I'm going to try to speak to you as if you are an adult

NARRATOR: He won't.

The adults on this newsgroup know who the child-like iKooks are where they (i.e., you, Jolly Roger) are all uneducated, ill-informed, and above all,
of a rather disproportionately low IQ).

All those traits each of you child-like iKooks share isn't what makes you iKooks though.

Nay.
Plenty of people on Usenet are stupid.
Plenty of them have no education too.

But you iKooks are different.
You only exist in the main on iOS newsgroups.

Why is that?
I know why because I've studied you iKooks for more than a decade.

I know why you do what you do, perhaps more than you even know why.
Want me to tell you why?

you hate yourself.
Yes.

You hate that your entire life everyone has been calling you stupid.
It never ends.

Why?
Because you _are_ stupid.

And yet, you don't even realize it.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad, but you're actually too stupid to realize how incredibly stupid you are.

That's a pretty bad indictment on you iKooks but that's not the worst.

What worse is that you invested almost all of your loss of self esteem into
the Apple Propaganda that Apple (brilliantly) has fed you over the years.

You are so invested in that errant Apple propaganda that your entire belief system as it revolves around Apple products is immune to facts.

That alone wouldn't be too bad but what makes you iKooks is that any fact
that belies your errant belief system, you consider a danger to your ego.

If you weren't told your entire life that you were stupid, this wouldn't be
so bad, but because your whole life you've been told you're stupid, you're desperate for someone (anyone!) to tell you that you're NOT stupid.

You know who does that for you?
I do.

Apple.

Yup.
Apple.

Apple told you that you were smart for paying all that money for their fantastically advertised and highly stylish product Jolly Roger.

Apple appreciates you.
Very much indeed.

Apple rewards your ego, Jolly Roger.
You like that don't you.

Apple makes you feel "not stupid" for the first time in your life, Jolly
Roger. I get it. I understand you Jolly Roger. I know what makes you tick.

You are desperate for someone (anyone) to tell you that you're NOT stupid.
And Apple is HAPPY to tell you that.

In fact, the reason you gloat over Apple profits (which no normal person
would ever do unless they're investors) is BECAUS you're desperate for affirmation that you're NOT stupid.

Apple profits means you made a good choice which means you're NOT stupid.
I wonder if you will ever realize what everyone else knows about you?

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

I have ten Google apps on my Apple iPhone 14.
- Gmail
- Google Maps
- Chrome
- Drive
- Docs
- Google Translate
- Voice
- YouTube
- Google Calendar
- Google Photos

I only have

- Gmail
- Google Maps
- Chrome
- Drive
- YouTube

I know that’s a lot of Google apps and somewhat ironic considering I use
an
Apple product, but I honestly use all of them quite a bit.

Me too. I use most of them most days.

I could maybe
uninstall Photos and Calendar, but even my iOS Calendar app polls the
Google Calendar server.

This is just my opinion but I think the Google apps
are more polished and functional than the equivalent Apple apps.

And more capable with Maps, tho I find the Gmail app UI rather counter intuitive and use it because gmail is so good at suppressing spam.

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

I hardly ever need to use Find My but love it when I need it.

I use iphones because the UI is much better and much safer with its walled garden.

That
and I’m just used to iOS and don’t want to learn a whole new operating system and all the tips and tricks over again.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way? Text groups or binaries?

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Rod Speed wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me
which are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with
iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way?

Much too slow when you change group and it downloads the latest posts.

Text groups or binaries?

I don't do binarys.

For me, it downloads all the groups at the same time. Sometimes it
takes 30 sec or so, but I have a real shitty cell signal. When
going from one group to another, it's instant.

There's lots of settings, so maybe if you tinker around you could
make it work better for you.

BTW, what do you use? Maybe I should try it too.

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way?

Much too slow when you change group and it downloads the latest posts.

Text groups or binaries?

I don't do binarys.

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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:00:37 +1100, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which
are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way?

Much too slow when you change group and it downloads the latest posts.

Text groups or binaries?

I don't do binarys.

For me, it downloads all the groups at the same time.

True, I meant that it does that much too slowly.

Sometimes it takes 30 sec or so, but I have a real shitty cell signal.

I use my very fast home wifi.

When going from one group to another, it's instant.

Yeah, but its much too slow downloading all the new posts
first thing in the morning.

There's lots of settings, so maybe if you tinker around you could make
it work better for you.

BTW, what do you use? Maybe I should try it too.

I don't do usenet on the iphone because its much too slow to load new
posts.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which are >>>> not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way?

Much too slow when you change group and it downloads the latest posts.

Text groups or binaries?

I don't do binarys.

That is not my experience. It’s just as fast as any desktop newsreader that I’ve ever used. Maybe you’re doing something different, like having it delete all posts then redownload them again or something like that.

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badgolferman wrote:

Andy Burnelli wrote:

Is that so? *Is Apple Maps finally (almost?) a functional equivalent
to Google Maps?*

If it's true, then why not use the Apple Maps app (since you're
already logging into the Apple mothership tracking account)?

Apple Maps does not appeal to me.

Hi badgolferman ,
I finally (after years) edited my killfile mechanism so I don't see many of
the others anymore... we'll see if not responding to the iKook trolls
works.

I did leave nospam in place, but the pernicious trolls like Rodspeed, Joerg Lorenz, Alan Baker, Hank, et. al, are in it (it's a PITA to set this up as
it uses regular expressions which have to be tested for each header set).

I don't use Apple Maps either, but I ran extensive tests a few years ago,
and it did route on a Wi-Fi only iPad while driving, which I found
remarkable at that time (as I hadn't expected Apple Maps to work as well as
it did).

It starts with the interface. The
section with text is too big and takes up a large section of the map.
It also seems slow to update as you make turns. I'm sure it will get
me to my destination but I just prefer Google Maps for the most part.

Ah. I see. You've delved deeper than I have into it (I stayed technical).
Makes sense. You'll never see me say Google Maps sucks as it's the best.

I have to give Apple credit though, for even trying to upset Google Maps.
It's a tough act to beat. I find Google's lane advice to be almost perfect.

For long interstate rides I will switch to Waze for the speed trap
function.

I've noticed that long-lasting speed traps are actually noted in Google
Maps nowadays - but I've heard many times that Waze is far better at that.

Depends on what state you're in, where the East Coast "gestapo" makes a lot
of money off those strategically placed to be just inside the county border type of speed traps, whereas, California, apparently, not so much.

I've been using Waze since I had a Blackberry Storm prior to
iPhones. Not that it matters, but I've been a Royalty Wazer for years.
You advance through levels based upon miles driven.

Ah. Interesting. I didn't even know that. Amazing. Who knew? Not me. Thanks
for edifying me that they have a loyalty style reward system. Also I had
not heard the term "wazer" prior, but it fits the model well.

Good for you, where that loyalty promotion is one of the advantages you
obtain from logging into their mothership account. I'm curious what
"benefits" you can gain from being a loyal royal wazer though.

Maybe sms thinks Apple Maps is good now because it either has or will
soon have multi-stop functionality (something nospam said is not
needed).

As you're well aware, Steve strives to technically compare Apple & Android products which is a good thing even as, in his written assessment, Apple
often falls short of expectations (as they did for Steve on the Apple Maps' functionality) - but he tries to be balanced so Android sometimes loses.

As you're just as well aware, the consistent thing about nospam is any time
his Apple deity falls short, nospam will pull out of his rather small
argument toolkit his seven excuses for why his religious idol fell short.

One of those classic seven excuses for why nospam's deity fell short is...
*It's not needed*

Remember when nospam claimed that for 5G which, if Apple didn't surrender
to Qualcomm (to the tune of about eleven billion dollars overall!) the
iPhone would have been dead as a product (which Apple knew full well).

That's how important something that nospam claims is "not needed", is!

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to plan
out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send that route
in its entirety to your phone either by text message or push.

This is a nice feature, I agree, and I'm glad you pointed it out as the
mouse and keyboard and huge screen certainly assist in those complexities.

It's a _lot_ easier to drop a pin, for example, on a huge map (my monitor screen is the size of a football field for my tired old eyes to enjoy) than
it is to drop that same pin on a tiny phablet phone such as mine are.

this funtion a lot when I plan out long distance motorcycle trips.

Good for you that you're still riding these days. My beemer is sitting in
the garage in front of the bimmer where my wife is clamoring for me to get
rid of both of them. While my kids learned to drive on my old bimmer, I
won't let my kids ride the beemer except to learn how to shift with their
toes) due to the inherent danger of acute road rash due to the cagers.

Have you had anyone turn left in front of you, for example, having not seen
you (even if you're on a big bike like your Gold Wing(?) or my K1200)?

It's virtually impossible to play around with the phone when riding on
a motorcycle down the interstate so I appreciate the ability to have my entire trip planned out in advance.

I understand. Especially wearing an Aerostich and full face helmet and long leather gloves (you probably don't wear the Aerostich but most BMW riders
do). However, given you're not a Harley rider, you probably are just as
well protected so it's difficult to operate electronics when suited up.

This function alone has moved me
away from Waze to Google Maps over the years.

It's nice that you have an electronic guidance system that you can use
while on a road trip. Multiple decades ago during my rice burner days, I
set up a radio in the fairing and even a mic/speaker inside my helmet.

But I never had a nav system setup - albeit this was in the days even
before the US government allowed their satellites to be used freely.

Good for you that you can set up the trip on the computer, and then use it
on the phone while riding. I'm happy for you and thank you for the info.

Back on Waze, I had an opportunity to be a passenger recently going to an
art show with my grandchildren and the driver used Waze, where I took note
that the graphical display is "larger" (so to speak) and more obvious than Google Maps seems to be (less cluttered perhaps?). They loved it also.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to have a civil discussion on map routing merits.

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Andy Burnelli wrote:

Have you had anyone turn left in front of you, for example, having
not seen you (even if you're on a big bike like your Gold Wing(?) or
my K1200)?

My 2002 Goldwing with 103K miles is bright orange thus it's easier to
see than most other motorcycles. https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

Also I tend not to leave large amounts of space in front of me so
there's not much room for them to do that. Regardless I approach
intersections with caution and look around/through cars in front of me
and prepare for such idiots as you describe. Of far more frequent
danger are people who can't stop looking at their phones as they're
driving and encroach into my lane. That's why I'm constantly scanning
drivers around me to see who is driving distracted.

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nospam wrote:

In article <xn0np406bcgdlv003@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

My 2002 Goldwing with 103K miles is bright orange thus it's easier
to see than most other motorcycles. https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

makes it easier for cops.

Only if they're looking. At least they can't hear me like Harleys...

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In article <xn0np406bcgdlv003@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

My 2002 Goldwing with 103K miles is bright orange thus it's easier to
see than most other motorcycles. https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

makes it easier for cops.

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In article <xn0np4334gdpve006@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a >>mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send
that route in its entirety to your phone either by text message or
push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
*eight* years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

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sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a
mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send
that route in its entirety to your phone either by text message or
push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

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On 11/8/2022 3:54 AM, badgolferman wrote:

Andy Burnelli wrote:

Is that so? *Is Apple Maps finally (almost?) a functional equivalent
to Google Maps?*

If it's true, then why not use the Apple Maps app (since you're
already logging into the Apple mothership tracking account)?

Apple Maps does not appeal to me. It starts with the interface. The
section with text is too big and takes up a large section of the map.
It also seems slow to update as you make turns. I'm sure it will get
me to my destination but I just prefer Google Maps for the most part.
For long interstate rides I will switch to Waze for the speed trap
function. I've been using Waze since I had a Blackberry Storm prior to iPhones. Not that it matters, but I've been a Royalty Wazer for years.
You advance through levels based upon miles driven.

Maybe sms thinks Apple Maps is good now because it either has or will
soon have multi-stop functionality (something nospam said is not
needed).

Apple Maps is making progress. I prefer it when driving in-town in
unfamiliar areas because I find the voice prompts more intuitive in the
way they are spoken.

As you stated, for long trips, Waze is superior, and because of the crowd-sourced data of Waze it's not possible for Apple Maps to provide
the same level of usefulness,

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to plan
out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send that route
in its entirety to your phone either by text message or push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

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On 11/8/2022 8:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a
mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send
that route in its entirety to your phone either by text message or
push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

I doubt if they would implement it, and if they did it would be like
Apple News which they removed from Windows and Android when they bought Texture.

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

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In article <tke2ch$3uufq$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

I doubt if they would implement it,

as usual, you are wrong.

they already did implement it, eight years ago.

and if they did it would be like
Apple News which they removed from Windows and Android when they bought Texture.

two totally different things.

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

another ad hominem.

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badgolferman wrote:

My 2002 Goldwing with 103K miles

Wow. Over 100K miles on a bike is commendable. Back east, admittedly in the colder upper NY state region, if someone had 10K on a bike it was a lot.

I think you're further south, (Virginia perhaps?), where your weather is
more conducive to riding year round (and yes, I've ridden many times in
snow and I don't like it one bit).

But kudos to you for so many miles on a bike.

is bright orange thus it's easier to
see than most other motorcycles. https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

Wow. That's a pretty bike indeed!

Also I tend not to leave large amounts of space in front of me so
there's not much room for them to do that. Regardless I approach intersections with caution and look around/through cars in front of me
and prepare for such idiots as you describe. Of far more frequent
danger are people who can't stop looking at their phones as they're
driving and encroach into my lane. That's why I'm constantly scanning drivers around me to see who is driving distracted.

Stay safe!

Do you let your kids ride on their own?

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Am 08.11.22 um 17:09 schrieb nospam:

In article <tke2ch$3uufq$1@dont-email.me>, sms

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

another ad hominem.

Nobody needs such a complicated workflow for navigation like sms
proposes. Is very old style.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 22:54:01 +1100, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Andy Burnelli wrote:

Is that so? *Is Apple Maps finally (almost?) a functional equivalent
to Google Maps?*

If it's true, then why not use the Apple Maps app (since you're
already logging into the Apple mothership tracking account)?

Apple Maps does not appeal to me. It starts with the interface. The
section with text is too big and takes up a large section of the map.
It also seems slow to update as you make turns. I'm sure it will get
me to my destination but I just prefer Google Maps for the most part.

Yeah, me too. I mostly use it for the garage/yard sales which mostly
don't include the street number but usually do include some photos
of what is on offer so the google maps street view can be handy to
see which actual house it is by comparing stuff like brick walls and
fences with the photo and the street view when we show up a full
hour before the advertised start before there are any signs or
balloons out, as we always do.

For long interstate rides I will switch to Waze for the speed trap
function. I've been using Waze since I had a Blackberry Storm prior to iPhones. Not that it matters, but I've been a Royalty Wazer for years.
You advance through levels based upon miles driven.

Maybe sms thinks Apple Maps is good now because it either has or will
soon have multi-stop functionality (something nospam said is not
needed).

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to plan
out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send that route
in its entirety to your phone either by text message or push. I use
this funtion a lot when I plan out long distance motorcycle trips.
It's virtually impossible to play around with the phone when riding on
a motorcycle down the interstate so I appreciate the ability to have my entire trip planned out in advance. This function alone has moved me
away from Waze to Google Maps over the years.

One very real advantage with apple maps is that it has the new housing subdivisions shown quite literally a year or more before google maps
has it and that is important for garage/yard sales.

Main downside with apple maps is that they keep ignoring my notification
of map errors whereas google maps can fix them in hours after I notify
them.

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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 21:09:58 +1100, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There are two iOS apps (NewsTap, Find My) indispensable to me which
are
not
available on Android so that’s why I continue to stay with iPhones.

I find NewsTap far too slow to be much use at all.

Slow in what way?

Much too slow when you change group and it downloads the latest posts.

Text groups or binaries?

I don't do binarys.

That is not my experience. It’s just as fast as any desktop newsreader
that
I’ve ever used.

Are you talking about the initial downloading of all the new posts
in all the groups you have subscribed to first thing in the day ?

That's the main thing I hate with NewsTap, even when
I limit the download to say 50 posts, painfully slow.

Maybe you’re doing something different, like having it deleteall posts
then redownload them again or something like that.

No I don't.

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On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 04:38:22 +1100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 08.11.22 um 17:09 schrieb nospam:

In article <tke2ch$3uufq$1@dont-email.me>, sms

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

another ad hominem.

Nobody needs such a complicated workflow for navigation like sms
proposes. Is very old style.

Some do, particularly motorbike riders and those who drive alone.

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nospam wrote:

In article <xn0np4334gdpve006@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer

using a >>mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions --
then send >>that route in its entirety to your phone either by
text message or >>push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
eight years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

I don't use a Mac so I don't see that. Does Google Maps only work with
Windows or does it work with a Mac too? I don't think Apple Maps will
work on a Windows computer so there's no way to send a push or text
message to your phone.

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nospam wrote:

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

another ad hominem.

You have to admit, the king of ad hominem attacks, nospam, knows it when he sees it being used by someone else, in this case Steve's sarcasm about him.

Basically nospam has only seven excuses for his Apple deity's flaws.

When most are exhausted is when nospam flings the childish attacks
(e.g., ftfy ad hominem attacks)...
<https://i.postimg.cc/NfYNJVsv/nospam-ftfy.jpg>

Note that's _thousands_ of times nospam flings "ftfy" attacks alone!
Each of them in response to a fact nospam had no _adult_ response to.

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nospam wrote:

In article <tke2ch$3uufq$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

I doubt if they would implement it,

as usual, you are wrong.

they already did implement it, eight years ago.

and if they did it would be like
Apple News which they removed from Windows and Android when they bought
Texture.

two totally different things.

Even nospam probably understands the benefit of being able to plan a
trip using a computer then sending it the phone.

another ad hominem.

To get even, why not call him a liar?

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In article <xn0np45cojdhii007@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
eight years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

I don't use a Mac so I don't see that. Does Google Maps only work with Windows or does it work with a Mac too?

google maps works in any recent browser, but since it's a google
product, it's entirely up to google to support sending routes (and
other data) to ios devices.

so far, google has chosen not to do that (and unlikely to ever do so).

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

apple provided the ability, and it's up to third party developers
(including google) to utilize it.

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In article <tkedet$7cs$1@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

You have completely obfuscated the question. Of course Google sends the
route to my iPhone.

you & sms said it would be nice if that feature was added.

I was asking if Apple Maps will send me the same thing.

it does, and has for nearly a decade.

Does Apple Maps even have a browser version to allow me to create routes
and send by text message or push notifications to a mobile phone, even to
an android phone just as Google maps will send to my iPhone?

apple maps is a native app on mac and ios. it is not a browser-based.

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <xn0np45cojdhii007@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
eight years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

I don't use a Mac so I don't see that. Does Google Maps only work with
Windows or does it work with a Mac too?

google maps works in any recent browser, but since it's a google
product, it's entirely up to google to support sending routes (and
other data) to ios devices.

so far, google has chosen not to do that (and unlikely to ever do so).

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

apple provided the ability, and it's up to third party developers
(including google) to utilize it.

You have completely obfuscated the question. Of course Google sends the
route to my iPhone. I was asking if Apple Maps will send me the same thing. Does Apple Maps even have a browser version to allow me to create routes
and send by text message or push notifications to a mobile phone, even to
an android phone just as Google maps will send to my iPhone?

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <tkedet$7cs$1@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

You have completely obfuscated the question. Of course Google sends the
route to my iPhone.

you & sms said it would be nice if that feature was added.

I was asking if Apple Maps will send me the same thing.

it does, and has for nearly a decade.

Does Apple Maps even have a browser version to allow me to create routes
and send by text message or push notifications to a mobile phone, even to
an android phone just as Google maps will send to my iPhone?

apple maps is a native app on mac and ios. it is not a browser-based.

Fix your clock. You’re posting follow ups to me before I sent them.

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In article <tkejlo$qpi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Fix your clock. You¹re posting follow ups to me before I sent them.

the clock is fine. it's a stupid time zone bug that won't ever be fixed.

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In article <tkekj3$15vl$1@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Fix your clock. You1re posting follow ups to me before I sent them.

the clock is fine. it's a stupid time zone bug that won't ever be fixed.

Sounds like a mac thing. Windows doesn¹t have that problem.

it is.

it's a lot of fun when flying across time zones and ending up with
files modified before they were created. backup apps really when that
happens.

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <tkejlo$qpi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Fix your clock. You¹re posting follow ups to me before I sent them.

the clock is fine. it's a stupid time zone bug that won't ever be fixed.

Sounds like a mac thing. Windows doesn’t have that problem.

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On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 07:16:29 +1100, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <xn0np45cojdhii007@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
eight years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

I don't use a Mac so I don't see that. Does Google Maps only work with
Windows or does it work with a Mac too?

google maps works in any recent browser, but since it's a google
product, it's entirely up to google to support sending routes (and
other data) to ios devices.

so far, google has chosen not to do that (and unlikely to ever do so).

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

apple provided the ability, and it's up to third party developers
(including google) to utilize it.

You have completely obfuscated the question. Of course Google sends the
route to my iPhone. I was asking if Apple Maps will send me the same
thing.
Does Apple Maps even have a browser version to allow me to create routes
and send by text message or push notifications to a mobile phone, even to
an android phone just as Google maps will send to my iPhone?

No it does not and in fact apple maps uses google maps on the PC.

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On 2022-11-08, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <xn0np4334gdpve006@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a
mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send
that route in its entirety to your phone either by text message or
push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
*eight* years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

AFAIK, Apple Maps does not support adding multiple stops in a single
route. I wish it did, because that's a useful feature I would definitely
use on road trips.

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device (thanks, Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many years now.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:08:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

Apple requires all ios browsers to be webkitted, so they /do/ have control

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In article <tkf1nr$1bjv$1@gioia.aioe.org>, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

Apple requires all ios browsers to be webkitted, so they /do/ have control

you continue to demonstrate just how little you know about app
development and what webkit actually does.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2022-11-08, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <xn0np4334gdpve006@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using a
mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then send
that route in its entirety to your phone either by text message or
push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
*eight* years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

AFAIK, Apple Maps does not support adding multiple stops in a single
route. I wish it did, because that's a useful feature I would definitely
use on road trips.

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device (thanks, Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it works for
basically 10% of computer users.

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On 2022-11-09, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:08:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

Apple requires all ios browsers to be webkitted, so they /do/ have control

Yet another new nym for Arlen, trying to fool people into thinking he's
not who he is. Poor, lonely, little Arlen .Once he pops, he can't stops!
; D

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Am 09.11.22 um 03:02 schrieb JAB:

On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:08:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

don't blame apple for something over which they have no control.

Apple requires all ios browsers to be webkitted, so they /do/ have control

Arlen, you do not understand anything about browser development.

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Am 09.11.22 um 03:26 schrieb badgolferman:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device (thanks,
Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it works for
basically 10% of computer users.

In the US roughly 50%
In many countries in Europe 25-50%

Arlen, do you have wet dreams again?

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Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 03:26 schrieb badgolferman:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device (thanks,
Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it works for
basically 10% of computer users.

In the US roughly 50%
In many countries in Europe 25-50%

Arlen, do you have wet dreams again?

You’re dreaming. There is no way in hell the Mac has 50% market share in
US. Maybe iPhones, but not Macs.

Also your fear of Arlen has made you look incredibly ignorant. Every time
you accuse me of being Arlen you only make yourself look more stupid.

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badgolferman wrote:

Also your fear of Arlen has made you look incredibly ignorant. Every time
you accuse me of being Arlen you only make yourself look more stupid.

I think it's funny that they accuse everyone who says anything they don't
want to hear, of being someone whom they hate for the facts he writes.

1. None of the iKooks reads any news about Apple or the iPhone
2. All of the iKooks live a decade in the past when the iPhone was better
3. None of them have any idea of what's happened in the last five years

Like all religious zealots, the iKooks fear facts.

Worse, the more ignorant (e.g., Jolly Roger, Your Name, Lewis, et. al) intensely hate & fear the bearer of facts even more than they fear facts.

Just watch how they respond to any bearer of facts (like Gordon Kelly).
a. Denial
b. Fear
c. Hatred

Even when _every_ news outfit is reporting on the exact same facts!
*iKooks not only hate facts - but they intensely hate the bearer*

This is because of three traits all the iKooks own...
A. All iKooks are all of abnormally low IQ
(which is important because they have no tools to respond to facts)
B. Every iKook completely lacks any semblance of education over K12
(again, this is important because they lack the tools to comprehend)
c. All the iKooks, their whole lives, have been told they were stupid

This last item is the most important.
The iKooks all (rightly so) have extremely low self esteem.

Yet Apple loves them. And, in turn, they love Apple.
Why?

Did you ever wonder why iKooks gloat when Apple profit margins are huge?
What normal person would gloat that a company fleeced them nearly to death?

Nobody sane. Right.
Yet the iKooks _gloat_ over how much profit Apple makes off of them.

Why?
I know why.

See above.
Apple gives them the social acceptance they craved their entire lives.

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Am 09.11.22 um 11:43 schrieb badgolferman:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 03:26 schrieb badgolferman:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device (thanks, >>>> Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it works for
basically 10% of computer users.

In the US roughly 50%
In many countries in Europe 25-50%

Arlen, do you have wet dreams again?

You’re dreaming. There is no way in hell the Mac has 50% market share in US. Maybe iPhones, but not Macs.

Also your fear of Arlen has made you look incredibly ignorant. Every time
you accuse me of being Arlen you only make yourself look more stupid.

Hi Arlen

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Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 11:43 schrieb badgolferman:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 03:26 schrieb badgolferman:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route
on Apple Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on
another device (thanks, Handoff) or easily share it with
another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it
works for basically 10% of computer users.

In the US roughly 50%
In many countries in Europe 25-50%

Arlen, do you have wet dreams again?

You’re dreaming. There is no way in hell the Mac has 50% market
share in US. Maybe iPhones, but not Macs.

Also your fear of Arlen has made you look incredibly ignorant.
Every time you accuse me of being Arlen you only make yourself
look more stupid.

Hi Arlen

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You are a paranoid moron. I've told you multiple times I am no one
else but myself.

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On 2022-11-09, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2022-11-08, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <xn0np4334gdpve006@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

sms wrote:

One thing Google Maps does which I really like is the ability to
plan out routes with multiple stops on the desktop computer using
a mouse, waypoints (dropped pins), and other functions -- then
send that route in its entirety to your phone either by text
message or push.

Yes, that is a major advantage of Google Maps.

Apple/nospam probably think it's not needed. We'll see if it gets
added later. Shouldn't be difficult to implement it.

it's not difficult to implement at all, which is why it was added
*eight* years ago, back in 2014, with mac os yosemite and ios 8.

AFAIK, Apple Maps does not support adding multiple stops in a single
route. I wish it did, because that's a useful feature I would
definitely use on road trips.

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route on Apple
Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on another device
(thanks, Handoff) or easily share it with another person for many
years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it works for
basically 10% of computer users.

That's not entirely true, and I was wrong about some things:

Apple Maps *does* support multiple stops, and it's really easy to add
them and rearrange them in a route, as you can see here where I added a
stop at a local coffee joint on my way from Target to Kohl's:

<https://i.imgur.com/j10DYrA.png>

And you can share directions to a specific location with anyone - even
someone using a non-Apple device, and the link opens in their web
browser to display the location. However, I don't see a way to share a multi-stop route.

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badgolferman wrote:

Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 11:43 schrieb badgolferman:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.11.22 um 03:26 schrieb badgolferman:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

With that said we have definitely been able to plan a route
on Apple Maps on one device and seamlessly pick it up on
another device (thanks, Handoff) or easily share it with
another person for many years now.

Seemingly this is only true between Apple products. So it
works for basically 10% of computer users.

In the US roughly 50%
In many countries in Europe 25-50%

Arlen, do you have wet dreams again?

You’re dreaming. There is no way in hell the Mac has 50% market
share in US. Maybe iPhones, but not Macs.

Also your fear of Arlen has made you look incredibly ignorant.
Every time you accuse me of being Arlen you only make yourself
look more stupid.

Hi Arlen

Path:
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You are a paranoid moron. I've told you multiple times I am no one
else but myself.

Heh, jughead lorenz probably thinks his mother is arlen :)

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Andy Burnelli wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

My 2002 Goldwing with 103K miles

Wow. Over 100K miles on a bike is commendable. Back east, admittedly
in the colder upper NY state region, if someone had 10K on a bike it
was a lot.

I think you're further south, (Virginia perhaps?), where your weather
is more conducive to riding year round (and yes, I've ridden many
times in snow and I don't like it one bit).

Yes, I am in SE VA. What they used to call Tidewater area, but which
is now called Hampton Roads area.

But kudos to you for so many miles on a bike.

Actually I bought it from my friend with 75K miles four years ago. I'm
at least the third owner. It's my very first motorcycle. I went big immediately and didn't bother progressing through sizes. In fact I had
never rode one before and since I wanted that motorcycle I took the
weekend parking lot test and got my license. It's kind of like a
teenager getting driver's ed in the school parking lot then immediately
driving a semi truck! Right turns from a dead stop were the hardest to
master.

is bright orange thus it's easier to
see than most other motorcycles. https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

https://ibb.co/Y0nfRDB

Wow. That's a pretty bike indeed!

Also I tend not to leave large amounts of space in front of me so
there's not much room for them to do that. Regardless I approach >>intersections with caution and look around/through cars in front of
me and prepare for such idiots as you describe. Of far more frequent
danger are people who can't stop looking at their phones as they're
driving and encroach into my lane. That's why I'm constantly
scanning drivers around me to see who is driving distracted.

Stay safe!

Do you let your kids ride on their own?

My two sons don't ride on their own but they like riding on the back of
this one. My wife likes it too, although it's hard for her to get
on/off since she has a problem with her leg. Sometimes her girlfriends
get to go for a ride too. The first time I took a passenger (wife) I
was scared to death, even more so than the first time I rode it myself.
Now I can safely say having passengers has made me a better and safer
rider since I have to be conscious of the extra weight and someone
else's life.

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badgolferman wrote:

Actually I bought it from my friend with 75K miles four years ago. I'm
at least the third owner. It's my very first motorcycle. I went big immediately and didn't bother progressing through sizes.

Hi badgolferman,

Wow. That's not how most people do it. Most of us bought a rice burner when
we were just kids, usually a dirt bike, which is a nice way to learn how to ride as the falls don't break as many bones.

Then, when we get our licenses, we graduate progressively up from smaller
bikes in the rice burner category before progressing to the three big boys.

In fact I had
never rode one before and since I wanted that motorcycle I took the
weekend parking lot test and got my license.

In New York, where I got my initial license, it was a simple test, but here
in California it's a money making endeavor where the "lollipop" test at the
DMV is free but essentially impossible (on a big bike anyway), whereas
almost everyone passes the two-day parking lot test process.

It's kind of like a
teenager getting driver's ed in the school parking lot then immediately driving a semi truck! Right turns from a dead stop were the hardest to master.

Look up countersteering if you haven't noticed yet that to turn left you
push on the right handlebar, and vice versa, to turn right you push on the
left handlebar.

The dangerous part is in braking of course.

Do you let your kids ride on their own?

My two sons don't ride on their own but they like riding on the back of
this one. My wife likes it too, although it's hard for her to get
on/off since she has a problem with her leg. Sometimes her girlfriends
get to go for a ride too. The first time I took a passenger (wife) I
was scared to death, even more so than the first time I rode it myself.
Now I can safely say having passengers has made me a better and safer
rider since I have to be conscious of the extra weight and someone
else's life.

It's completely different with a passenger, I agree.
Sometimes they fight you in the leans, for example, so they knock you off balance until either you figure it out or they figure it out.

Less so this happens on the bigger bikes - but more so on the smaller ones. Good luck, and ride safely.

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