Alan wrote:

On 2022-07-22 11:35, Andy Burnelli wrote:

In terms of design commonality every modern consumer operating
system
updates in asynchronous layers, whether that operating system is
Android,
Windows or Linux (where those updates generally occur essentially
forever).

However, by way of stark contrast, the only common consumer
operating
system that does NOT update in layers, is the primitive
monolithic iOS.

For iOS, if you need even a _single line of code_ to be updated, the
_entire_ operating system has to be rebuilt back at the Apple
factory.

Then that _entire operating system_ has to be presented to the
_billions_
of iOS users (all for a single line of code that has changed!)
where only
then is the monolithic iOS monstrosity pared down to a size for that
device.
No wonder iOS users are _desperate_ for the latest iOS update.
No wonder iOS users habitually bitterly complain they slow things
down.

More evidence showing how _primitive_ the iOS monolithic OS
design is
(simply by comparing the stone-age design of iOS to that of Android)
*Android Security Patch Level June 01 2022*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/9AXO5jZyD5w>

'iOS 15.4.1 Review

If your iPhone is currently running iOS 15.4, you’ll see the
smallest iOS 15.4.1 download size.

For iOS 15.4 users, the iOS 15.4.1 download is fairly small. It’s
right around 300MB for iPhone 12 Pro users moving up from the
previous version of iOS 15. You can expect a similar size for other
iPhone models.'

<https://www.gottabemobile.com/5-things-to-know-about-the-ios-15-4-1-update/>

For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

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On Jul 22, 2022, Hank Rogers wrote (in article <news:ulFCK.588612$X_i.96107@fx18.iad>):

For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

Neither of you understood what he said. It's not about size.

The release mechanism for iOS is different than all other computer release mechanisms (which is not about size but what's in each release).

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Bill W <nothing@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Jul 22, 2022, Hank Rogers wrote (in article <news:ulFCK.588612$X_i.96107@fx18.iad>):

For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

Neither of you understood what he said. It's not about size.

The release mechanism for iOS is different than all other computer release mechanisms (which is not about size but what's in each release).

It is different and Arlen is also wrong.

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On Jul 23, 2022, Chris wrote (in article
<news:tbgem8$3phje$1@dont-email.me>):

For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

Neither of you understood what he said. It's not about size.

The release mechanism for iOS is different than all other computer release >> mechanisms (which is not about size but what's in each release).

It is different and Arlen is also wrong.

You and Arlen are right that iOS is different.
But Alan is wrong because it's not about size.

Arlen said Linux/Windows/Android update in layers at different schedules. That's not wrong.

Which statement are you saying was wrong?

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On 7/23/2022 5:15 PM, Bill W wrote:

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Arlen said Linux/Windows/Android update in layers at different schedules. That's not wrong.

Which statement are you saying was wrong?

Actually Arlen is half-right (or perhaps a quarter right).

It depends on how you update iOS. OTA updates via Wi-Fi or mobile data
replace only the files that have been changed. I suspect that this is
how nearly every iPhone and iPad owner does their updates.

There is an option on Mojave (and earlier) versions of the MacOS to
update iPhones and iPads via iTunes. In that case the entire OS is
replaced. I suppose that this also still works if you update iOS with
iTunes on a Windows computer. Apple details this method at <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212186>. I can't imagine why any
individual owner would want to use this method, but perhaps there's a
reason.

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Bill W <nothing@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Jul 23, 2022, Chris wrote (in article <news:tbgem8$3phje$1@dont-email.me>):

For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

Neither of you understood what he said. It's not about size.

The release mechanism for iOS is different than all other computer release >>> mechanisms (which is not about size but what's in each release).

It is different and Arlen is also wrong.

You and Arlen are right that iOS is different.
But Alan is wrong because it's not about size.

It's not about size, but size does tell you that there are delta updates
which is contrary to Arlen's assertion.

Arlen said Linux/Windows/Android update in layers at different schedules. That's not wrong.

Which statement are you saying was wrong?

This bit.

For iOS, if you need even a _single line of code_ to be updated, the
_entire_ operating system has to be rebuilt back at the Apple factory.

He's been banging on about this for years. It's demonstrably wrong.

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In article <tbjmkt$lq5n$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

Arlen said Linux/Windows/Android update in layers at different schedules. That's not wrong.

Which statement are you saying was wrong?

Actually Arlen is half-right (or perhaps a quarter right).

actually, he is not.

It depends on how you update iOS. OTA updates via Wi-Fi or mobile data replace only the files that have been changed. I suspect that this is
how nearly every iPhone and iPad owner does their updates.

that part is true.

There is an option on Mojave (and earlier) versions of the MacOS to
update iPhones and iPads via iTunes. In that case the entire OS is
replaced.

you continue to demonstrate your lack of knowledge about both ios and
mac os.

ios can be updated in all versions of mac os going back to the first
iphone and mac os tiger and continues beyond mojave, where it's done
via finder (along with many other functions previously done via
itunes).

stop pretending to know what you're talking about, because it's clear
that you do not and you're not fooling anyone.

I suppose that this also still works if you update iOS with
iTunes on a Windows computer.

of course it does.

Apple details this method at
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212186>.

apple also details how to update ios without using itunes in catalina
and later.

I can't imagine why any
individual owner would want to use this method, but perhaps there's a
reason.

there are several reasons, including limited space on the device, which
is probably the most common one. downloading the update on a mac or
windows pc avoids running out of storage on the device. another reason
is to download the update once and update multiple devices. there are
others.

you continue to demonstrate your lack of knowledge about both ios and
mac os as well as device management in general.

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