Apple is trying to trademark images of apples – the fruit, not the computers.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple.
The ripple effects of Apple winning its legal battle would extend far
beyond the tech world. The Fruit Union Suisse, a 111-year-old
organisation, has a logo featuring a red apple with a white Swiss cross superimposed on it. But now the association could find itself in the
position of having to change its logo because the FUS says Apple wants
IP rights to all depictions of apples in general — not just the apple
with the bite in it like Apple's iconic logo.
"We have a hard time understanding this, because it’s not like they’re trying to protect their bitten apple," Jimmy Mariethoz, director of
FUS, said to Wired. "Their objective here is really to own the rights
to an actual apple, which, for us, is something that is really almost universal … that should be free for everyone to use."
https://mashable.com/article/apple-logo-trademark-depictions-apples
Am 20.06.23 um 14:42 schrieb badgolferman:
Apple is trying to trademark images of apples – the fruit, not the
computers.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since
2017 and has launched similar applications in several other
countries, per Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an
application to the Swiss Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI)
for the IP rights to a black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith
apple.
The ripple effects of Apple winning its legal battle would extend
far beyond the tech world. The Fruit Union Suisse, a 111-year-old
organisation, has a logo featuring a red apple with a white Swiss
cross superimposed on it. But now the association could find
itself in the position of having to change its logo because the
FUS says Apple wants IP rights to all depictions of apples in
general — not just the apple with the bite in it like Apple's
iconic logo.
"We have a hard time understanding this, because it’s not like
they’re trying to protect their bitten apple," Jimmy Mariethoz,
director of FUS, said to Wired. "Their objective here is really to
own the rights to an actual apple, which, for us, is something
that is really almost universal … that should be free for everyone
to use."
https://mashable.com/article/apple-logo-trademark-depictions-apples
You are a Troll. The first paragraph reads as follows. You shortened
it in an unacceptable way. Nobody cares here in Switzerland: The case
is not to win for Apple.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss >Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a >black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple. In 2022, the IPI
partially awarded Apple's request, citing that generic imagery of
common items are considered to be in the public domain.
Apple has now launched an appeal. Because the case is ongoing and
requires consent from Apple, the IPI couldn't disclose details of its >request, but it involves uses for audiovisual footage.
Joerg Lorenz wrote:
You are a Troll. The first paragraph reads as follows. You shortened
it in an unacceptable way. Nobody cares here in Switzerland: The case
is not to win for Apple.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss
Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a
black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple. In 2022, the IPI
partially awarded Apple's request, citing that generic imagery of
common items are considered to be in the public domain.
Apple has now launched an appeal. Because the case is ongoing and
requires consent from Apple, the IPI couldn't disclose details of its
request, but it involves uses for audiovisual footage.
I snipped the article to the pertinent parts and provided the link for
anyone who wants to investigate further. Whatever you added doesn't
change the gist of the article.
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group. We're all
just a bunch of trolls trolling each other...
Am 20.06.23 um 16:25 schrieb badgolferman:
Joerg Lorenz wrote:
You are a Troll. The first paragraph reads as follows. You shortened
it in an unacceptable way. Nobody cares here in Switzerland: The case
is not to win for Apple.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss
Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a
black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple. In 2022, the IPI
partially awarded Apple's request, citing that generic imagery of
common items are considered to be in the public domain.
Apple has now launched an appeal. Because the case is ongoing and
requires consent from Apple, the IPI couldn't disclose details of its
request, but it involves uses for audiovisual footage.
I snipped the article to the pertinent parts and provided the link for
anyone who wants to investigate further. Whatever you added doesn't
change the gist of the article.
Yes it does. Very much so. In jurisdictions with Roman Right Apple has
*Zero Chance* to succeed because they already lost the case.
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group. We're all
just a bunch of trolls trolling each other...
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone your connotation is correct. Look at all
these ridiculous US-right-wing posters which are simply idiots and
Trolls. Or at best Apple fanboys.
To discuss and criticize irreversible decisions taken by the elected EU parliament with very stupid and in a bigger context irrelevant
considerations is trollish. Very trollish.
P.S.: I use Apple products because they are very good and in most cases superior to the competition. But Apple is commercial enterprise and not
more.
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group.
On 2023-06-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group.
Nope, not everyone. Just you, sms, "humble" Ronny, and your leader,
Arlen (under his many, many nyms and impersonations) constantly troll
here. And whenever anyone else calls you out for it, you guys
immediately and predictably turn around and claim they are "the real
trolls", like all bullies do. You clearly think that behavior fools the
rest of us, but it doesn't. It only shows your true colors - that you
can dish it out, but can't take any push back.
On 2023-06-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group.
Nope, not everyone. Just you, sms, "humble" Ronny, and your leader,
Arlen (under his many, many nyms and impersonations) constantly troll
here. And whenever anyone else calls you out for it, you guys
immediately and predictably turn around and claim they are "the real
trolls", like all bullies do. You clearly think that behavior fools the
rest of us, but it doesn't. It only shows your true colors - that you
can dish it out, but can't take any push back.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
It's amazing how everyone is labeled a troll in this group.
Nope, not everyone. Just you, sms, "humble" Ronny, and your leader,
Arlen (under his many, many nyms and impersonations) constantly troll
here. And whenever anyone else calls you out for it, you guys
immediately and predictably turn around and claim they are "the real
trolls", like all bullies do. You clearly think that behavior fools
the rest of us, but it doesn't. It only shows your true colors - that
you can dish it out, but can't take any push back.
So says the rudest guy in the group
Up until now I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt considering English is not your native language, but it’s become clear in this thread and the replaceable batteries one that you are not only delusional, but also an extremely socialist government dependent person. If there’s anyone trolling around here it’s surely you with all the political bullshit you’re throwing
around.
Am 20.06.23 um 20:48 schrieb badgolferman:
Up until now I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt considering
English is not your native language, but it’s become clear in this >>thread and the replaceable batteries one that you are not only
delusional, but also an extremely socialist government dependent
person. If there’s anyone trolling around here it’s surely you
with all the political bullshit you’re throwing around.
Read this. But I have serious doubts that you are able to that:
https://t3n.de/news/logo-streit-apple-obstverband-1559762/
If calling out troll behavior is rude, then I'm happy to oblige. Like
I said, you guys can't take what you dish out.
Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 20.06.23 um 20:48 schrieb badgolferman:
Up until now I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt considering
English is not your native language, but it’s become clear in this
thread and the replaceable batteries one that you are not only
delusional, but also an extremely socialist government dependent
person. If there’s anyone trolling around here it’s surely you
with all the political bullshit you’re throwing around.
Read this. But I have serious doubts that you are able to that:
https://t3n.de/news/logo-streit-apple-obstverband-1559762/
Of course I can't, it's in a foreign language!
Jolly Roger wrote:
If calling out troll behavior is rude, then I'm happy to oblige. Like
I said, you guys can't take what you dish out.
Dish out rudeness like you do? No, I can't do that since I'm not such
a hateful person like you.
Jolly Roger wrote:
If calling out troll behavior is rude, then I'm happy to oblige. Like
I said, you guys can't take what you dish out.
Dish out rudeness like you do? No, I can't do that since I'm not such
a hateful person like you.
On 2023-06-20 05:42, badgolferman wrote:
Apple is trying to trademark images of apples – the fruit, not the
computers.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss
Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a
black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple.
The ripple effects of Apple winning its legal battle would extend far
beyond the tech world. The Fruit Union Suisse, a 111-year-old
organisation, has a logo featuring a red apple with a white Swiss cross
superimposed on it. But now the association could find itself in the
position of having to change its logo because the FUS says Apple wants
IP rights to all depictions of apples in general — not just the apple
with the bite in it like Apple's iconic logo.
"We have a hard time understanding this, because it’s not like they’re >> trying to protect their bitten apple," Jimmy Mariethoz, director of
FUS, said to Wired. "Their objective here is really to own the rights
to an actual apple, which, for us, is something that is really almost
universal … that should be free for everyone to use."
https://mashable.com/article/apple-logo-trademark-depictions-apples
Sorry, but Apple is not trying to trademark images of actual apples.
You're accepting the word of someone involved in the dispute.
The Schweizer Früchte changed their logo in 2011 to something that was
very similar to Apple's logo:
<https://www.swissfruit.ch/wp-content/themes/dudapress/dist/assets/images/logos/SOV_fruchte_cmyk_pos_de.svg>
Prior to 2011, their logo was this:
<https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/54990-111552-001-previous-logo-xl.jpg>
I think you'd have to agree the new logo is very similar to Apple's logo.
Apple is trying to trademark images of apples – the fruit, not the computers.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple.
The ripple effects of Apple winning its legal battle would extend far
beyond the tech world. The Fruit Union Suisse, a 111-year-old
organisation, has a logo featuring a red apple with a white Swiss cross superimposed on it. But now the association could find itself in the
position of having to change its logo because the FUS says Apple wants
IP rights to all depictions of apples in general — not just the apple
with the bite in it like Apple's iconic logo.
"We have a hard time understanding this, because it’s not like they’re trying to protect their bitten apple," Jimmy Mariethoz, director of
FUS, said to Wired. "Their objective here is really to own the rights
to an actual apple, which, for us, is something that is really almost universal … that should be free for everyone to use."
https://mashable.com/article/apple-logo-trademark-depictions-apples
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-06-20 05:42, badgolferman wrote:
Apple is trying to trademark images of apples – the fruit, not the
computers.
Apple has been trying to trademark the apple in Switzerland since 2017
and has launched similar applications in several other countries, per
Wired UK(opens in a new tab). It submitted an application to the Swiss
Institute of Intellectual Property (IPI) for the IP rights to a
black-and-white depiction of a Granny Smith apple.
The ripple effects of Apple winning its legal battle would extend far
beyond the tech world. The Fruit Union Suisse, a 111-year-old
organisation, has a logo featuring a red apple with a white Swiss cross
superimposed on it. But now the association could find itself in the
position of having to change its logo because the FUS says Apple wants
IP rights to all depictions of apples in general — not just the apple
with the bite in it like Apple's iconic logo.
"We have a hard time understanding this, because it’s not like they’re >>> trying to protect their bitten apple," Jimmy Mariethoz, director of
FUS, said to Wired. "Their objective here is really to own the rights
to an actual apple, which, for us, is something that is really almost
universal … that should be free for everyone to use."
https://mashable.com/article/apple-logo-trademark-depictions-apples
Sorry, but Apple is not trying to trademark images of actual apples.
You're accepting the word of someone involved in the dispute.
The Schweizer Früchte changed their logo in 2011 to something that was
very similar to Apple's logo:
<https://www.swissfruit.ch/wp-content/themes/dudapress/dist/assets/images/logos/SOV_fruchte_cmyk_pos_de.svg>
Prior to 2011, their logo was this:
<https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/54990-111552-001-previous-logo-xl.jpg>
I think you'd have to agree the new logo is very similar to Apple's logo.
Not at all. The Swiss one is red and has a white cross on it. Even from a distance they don’t look anything alike.
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