• Re: How do we show the display variable refresh rate in real time on iO

    From sms@21:1/5 to Ken Hart on Thu Mar 9 08:48:19 2023
    On 3/9/2023 7:34 AM, Ken Hart wrote:
    On 3/9/2023 2:31 AM, Nil wrote:

    nospam wrote:

    "note that apple's display is a *variable* refresh rate that ranges from >>>  1hz to 120hz to adapt to the content currently being displayed. much of >>>  the time, it's less than 30hz because the content doesn't need anything >>>  faster. this also conserves power, versus competing devices that are
     always at maximum speed."

    I turned on the Android switch to show the refresh rate in real time:
      <https://i.postimg.cc/59zcmYFd/devopt07.jpg> Show Refresh Rate = on

    How do we show that variable refresh rate in real time on iOS devices?

    You can't.

    You're answering the question all wrong for this kind of newsgroup.

    The correct answer is never "you can't" but "not needed & nobody wants it."

    Silly Google puts it in all their settings just to clutter up the user interface, which is why an iPhone UI is so uncluttered and simple to use.

    There have only been a handful of Android devices that have been able to
    go down to 1Hz, and I doubt of they include the ability to view the
    refresh rate. You need the Samsung LTPO display to be able to do this,
    and it is the display in the 13.

    nospam is wrong of course™ when he states "versus competing devices that
    are always at maximum speed" since there are many other devices that
    change the display rate to save power. There have been a lot of phones
    that automatically switch the refresh rate between several preset values
    (30, 60, 120, and in some cases 144 Hz). Only a few Android devices can
    go down to 1Hz like the 13 Pro and 14 Pro.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Thu Mar 9 12:17:05 2023
    In article <tud2kk$1hfdu$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    there are many other devices that
    change the display rate to save power.

    manually, yes.

    There have been a lot of phones
    that automatically switch the refresh rate between several preset values
    (30, 60, 120, and in some cases 144 Hz).

    not a lot.

    apple pioneered the ltpo display technology needed for a variable
    refresh rate display, first seen with the series 4 apple watch. since
    then, only a handful of android phones use it.

    Only a few Android devices can
    go down to 1Hz like the 13 Pro and 14 Pro.

    10 hz for the iphone 13 pro, 1 hz for the iphone 14 pro.

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  • From Ken Hart@21:1/5 to sms on Thu Mar 9 17:20:09 2023
    On 3/9/2023 11:48 AM, sms wrote:

    There have only been a handful of Android devices that have been able to
    go down to 1Hz, and I doubt of they include the ability to view the
    refresh rate. You need the Samsung LTPO display to be able to do this,
    and it is the display in the 13.

    What rate are you saying can't be displayed on all recent Android phones?
    Every recent Android phone has that OS setting to show the refresh rate.
    Are you on a very old Android that doesn't yet have that display setting?
    --
    Ken Hart
    kwhart1@frontier.com

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 11 11:35:47 2023
    Am 09.03.23 um 21:42 schrieb RJH:
    On 9 Mar 2023 at 8:30:37 AM, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    what possible benefit is there for an end user to know the
    instantaneous refresh rate of the display, as it constantly changes
    based on the currently content, as well as various other factors
    (finger motion, power management, thermals, etc.)?

    What possible benefit is there for a vehicle driver to have a speedometer? The speed readout is constantly changing based on current driver actions.

    As so often you miss the intrinsic difference.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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