On 3/9/2023 8:38 AM, badgolferman wrote:
Andy Burnelli wrote:
Who among the regulars has been here the longest? Approximately
what year did they arrive?
Hi badgolferman,
I have no recollection of what year I arrived, but probably the early
birds might be these folks who certainly were on this newsgroup by
summer of 09. Alan Browne JF Mezei Jolly Roger nospam SMS
Your Name
So these people were here before 2009? I think Mezei has faded away.
Which of you are the oldtimer? I'm guessing nospam since he's always
on this newsgroup, even in the middle of night. Was nospam created
with this group?
You can look at posts all the way back to the creation of the group
using Google Groups.
<
https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/search?q=after%3A2007-10-30%20before%3A2007-12-30>
is between 30 Oct 2007 and 30 Dec 2007. Adjust the dates as needed. You
can also put in the name of the poster
It's more difficult to search for posters that don't use their real name
since many will use identical fake names.
However it does appear that the same nospam first posted in July 2008.
The style is unmistakable:
1) incorrect information
2) not answering questions
3) always making up an excuse for every reported issue
For example, see <
https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/H7iN6V44xac/m/DEpXsPKz_l0J>
where he is trying to explain away 3G connection issues, and how it was
"fixed" with software. In reality, the issues with the radio section in
the first generation of iPhones were well known, and were only partially
due to AT&T's network, i.e. see
<
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1617546>.
I recall the complaints by residents in my town, where Apple is
headquartered, back when the iPhone first came out, about reception.
Some residents rushed out to buy an iPhone, changing their carrier from
Verizon (which had good coverage) to AT&T (which had poorer coverage) in
the process (the original iPhone was only sold by AT&T).
There were people showing up at city council meetings complaining that
they had bought iPhones and they didn't work at their houses. One
deplorable result was to put in cell towers in the middle of city parks
since there were often no commercial locations available in the areas
where AT&T coverage was poor.
Part of the issue was that AT&T’s 3G service was W-CDMA, using their
higher frequency spectrum so the range was shorter and the building
penetration was worse, since you needed more towers to cover a given
area at the higher frequencies (this problem plagued T-Mobile and was addressed with band 71 (600 Mhz)). Verizon was mostly 800 MHz except in
a few areas of the country where they did not evolve from a legacy
carrier, such as Florida and parts of Texas.
February 10, 2011 was a historic day, it was when the Verizon CDMA
iPhone 4 went on sale.
We didn't get AT&T GSM/LTE coverage in our city center until 2018 when a
shared fake-tree tower went in <
https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/01/27/cupertino-new-cell-tower-could-help-plug-cellular-black-hole-near-civic-center/>.
For some reason, it took AT&T a year longer than Verizon to get their
portion up and running and Verizon already had coverage anyway, they
wanted that tower to increase capacity. Ironically, the old AT&T, which
was TDMA/AMPS had had excellent coverage, but that was all at 800 MHz.
Sorry to digress, but it shows that nospam has been providing
misinformation for nearly 15 years!
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