• green bubble

    From badgolferman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 22 21:55:56 2023
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a key motivation.

    The report also underlines the importance the iPhone plays in hooking
    people into the Apple ecosystem, spurring sales of AirPods, iPads, and
    Apple Watches …

    While earlier generations are almost evenly split between iPhone and
    Android phones, Gen Z is all about Apple – responsible for a full third of all iPhone sales in the US. In contrast, just 10% of Samsung sales are to
    Gen Z.

    Gen Z also spends more time on their phones than any other age group: up to
    six hours per day.

    Part of the reason for Apple’s grip on Gen Z consumers is social pressure,
    in particular the visibility of not owning an iPhone when participating in group chats using iMessage. It’s not just the fact that the Android user’s messages will appear in green rather than blue, more that they cause the
    entire chat to fallback to SMS, turning everyone’s messages green.

    “A green message anyone with an Android throws off the entire chat, because now the whole thing has to be SMS,” said Annelise Hillman, the 24-year-old chief executive of Frontman, a men’s grooming business. “So the social pressure to get an iPhone is pretty insane” […]

    “In the back of your mind it’s like, ‘Oh my God, have to explain to my friends why our group chat is green now,” said Anastasia Pelot, a manager
    at YPulse, a Gen Z and Millennials researcher.

    A viral TikTok video asked women to imagine a guy was a 10, then ask how
    his rating would drop if messages from him were green. Many said that they wouldn’t reply, or that his rating would halve.

    Apple at one point considered bringing iMessage to Android too, but within
    two years of launching it had decided against this. The main reason? It discouraged parents from giving their kids iPhones.

    Several executives, including software chief Craig Federighi and head of marketing Phil Schiller, spoke out in opposition to such an Android app existing.

    “iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones,” said Federighi in a lawsuit deposition.

    Today’s report suggests that Apple wouldn’t hold the Gen Z dominance it does had that decision not been made.

    https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/21/gen-z-apple/

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Feb 22 22:42:40 2023
    On 2023-02-22, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which
    says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a
    key motivation.

    That report is suspect right off the bat since it tries to minimize the
    real reasons why people prefer iMessage over SMS messages with a false
    claim of supposed "fear of bubbles". The fact is iMessage offers better security, reliability, and usability than SMS as well as much more
    messaging functionality, and that is why most people prefer it. The fact
    that it's built into every Apple device as a default app/service is also
    a huge bonus for Apple's customers.

    Apple at one point considered bringing iMessage to Android too, but
    within two years of launching it had decided against this. The main
    reason? It discouraged parents from giving their kids iPhones.

    Several executives, including software chief Craig Federighi and head
    of marketing Phil Schiller, spoke out in opposition to such an Android
    app existing.

    “iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to
    iPhone families giving their kids Android phones,” said Federighi in a lawsuit deposition.

    Today’s report suggests that Apple wouldn’t hold the Gen Z dominance
    it does had that decision not been made.

    Smart move then. Apple-only features and services are what sells Apple hardware, and Apple is naturally more aware of that than anyone.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Feb 22 17:40:28 2023
    On 2/22/2023 1:55 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a key motivation

    I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to iPhone
    since his colleagues and his students primarily use iPhones, and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and Android users are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 23 07:05:33 2023
    Am 22.02.23 um 22:55 schrieb badgolferman:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a key motivation.

    Do you have an obsession with this issue?

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to sms on Thu Feb 23 12:09:46 2023
    sms wrote:

    On 2/22/2023 1:55 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report –
    which says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group
    chats is a key motivation

    I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to
    iPhone since his colleagues and his students primarily use iPhones,
    and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and Android users
    are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.

    Same thing here. I have a 28-year-old who has an Android and doesn't
    care a bit about group chats, and a 19-year-old social butterfly who
    has told me about the pressure involved in keeping the iPhone blue
    bubble among his peers.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 23 10:19:11 2023
    On 2023-02-22 16:55, badgolferman wrote:



    Apple guilty of leveraging user experience to gain market share. Which
    is their job.

    Fiends. /s

    I recall reading some years ago that blind dates could end up on the
    rocks because one brings an Android to the table where the other has an
    iPhone. That's all it takes.

    Social pressures suck, but it's only been around for 10,000+ years.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Feb 23 07:49:27 2023
    On 2/23/2023 4:09 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    sms wrote:

    On 2/22/2023 1:55 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report –
    which says that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group
    chats is a key motivation

    I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to
    iPhone since his colleagues and his students primarily use iPhones,
    and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and Android users
    are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.

    Same thing here. I have a 28-year-old who has an Android and doesn't
    care a bit about group chats, and a 19-year-old social butterfly who
    has told me about the pressure involved in keeping the iPhone blue
    bubble among his peers.

    For some users it may be about the color of the bubble but the reality
    is that it's not really about the blue bubble versus the green bubble,
    it's about how group chats function.

    Google can solve the whole iMessage issue if they really want to. Look
    at what Beeper is doing with their servers <https://www.beeper.com/>,
    and what AirMessage and BlueBubbles does for users willing to have their
    own Mac-based server. Not many people want to set up their own Mac
    server, but a remote server handling it would be fine.

    Google should just buy Beeper, or invest in them so they can expand
    their service. The rollout of Beeper has been very slow with wait times
    of over a year to get an account.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Thu Feb 23 10:55:40 2023
    In article <tt81u8$1te2o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Google can solve the whole iMessage issue if they really want to.

    not legally.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Thu Feb 23 18:06:29 2023
    sms wrote:

    For some users it may be about the color of the bubble but the reality
    is that it's not really about the blue bubble versus the green bubble,
    it's about how group chats function.

    While it's not possible to have an adult conversation with Steve (because
    he's a political animal even as he's not actually stupid like the iKooks),
    what would be interesting is for Steve to compare the _functionality_ of iMessage against the app that I think is the best one for Android.
    *Pulse SMS* (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
    free, adfree, reqgsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>
    (Please see the sig description of features a _modern_ messenger can do.)

    I listed all the functionality, e.g., scheduled messages, encryption, backup/archive, text from any device, private conversation passcodes, clean
    up old messages, define web browser for message previews, blacklists,
    folder management, swipe actions, sound effects, notification
    customization, spam prevention such as settings for contacts versus people outside of contacts, smart replies, delayed sending, autoreply
    configuration, signature configuration, quick compost in notifications,
    active notifications, favorite contacts, pin conversations, search conversations, view all media in any given conversation, hide message
    content, notification access, delivery reports, strip unicode, mms configuration such as using group MMS, auto-save media, max image size,
    convert long messages to mms, etc., apn configuration such as override
    system APNs, MMSC URL, MMS proxy, MMS Port, User Agent specification, etc., keyboard layout, emoji styles, mute conversations, customized notifications
    per conversation, ignore/donotdisturb per conversation, seleted folders per conversation, clean up old messages per conversation, etc.

    And, oh, I forgot... the _choice_ of what color a contact shows up as,
    not only the primary color but the dark and accent colors too!

    Google can solve the whole iMessage issue if they really want to. Look
    at what Beeper is doing with their servers <https://www.beeper.com/>,
    and what AirMessage and BlueBubbles does for users willing to have their
    own Mac-based server. Not many people want to set up their own Mac
    server, but a remote server handling it would be fine.

    Google should just buy Beeper, or invest in them so they can expand
    their service. The rollout of Beeper has been very slow with wait times
    of over a year to get an account.

    I don't know of a single Android owner complaining about their "group
    chats", but I do know that Steve owns both platforms, and Steve complains
    about group chats.

    Why?

    What's the _real_ problem with group chats if we remove the color issue?
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to hank@nospam.invalid on Thu Feb 23 13:32:57 2023
    In article <ueOJL.308423$Lfzc.158700@fx36.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:


    There sure is a lot of lawyers her. Is that the consensus of all of
    them?

    lawyers rarely agree on everything, even when they're on the same team.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Feb 23 12:27:37 2023
    nospam wrote:
    In article <tt81u8$1te2o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Google can solve the whole iMessage issue if they really want to.

    not legally.


    There sure is a lot of lawyers her. Is that the consensus of all of
    them?

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Feb 23 19:28:18 2023
    nospam wrote:

    There sure is a lot of lawyers her. Is that the consensus of all of
    them?

    lawyers rarely agree on everything, even when they're on the same team.

    What we can all agree on is Google is _desperate_ to get "into" iMessage. Likewise, we can all agree that Apple isn't likely to easily provide that.
    More so, we can all agree that impressionable kids _love_ iMessage.

    But what about the adults?

    I don't see anyone on the Android newsgroup, except Steve, care for
    iMessage functionality over what they inherently already have.

    Since I strive to _understand_ why people do what they do, I ask...

    *Why would an adult, like Steve, pine for iMessage on Android?*

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu Feb 23 14:41:58 2023
    Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    There sure is a lot of lawyers her. Is that the consensus of all
    of them?

    lawyers rarely agree on everything, even when they're on the same
    team.

    What we can all agree on is Google is _desperate_ to get "into"
    iMessage.
    Likewise, we can all agree that Apple isn't likely to easily
    provide that.
    More so, we can all agree that impressionable kids _love_ iMessage.

    But what about the adults?

    I don't see anyone on the Android newsgroup, except Steve, care for
    iMessage functionality over what they inherently already have.

    Since I strive to _understand_ why people do what they do, I ask...

    Hey, ya got any neat pics of psychology books?

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Feb 23 16:03:51 2023
    On 2/23/2023 10:20 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>
    Also iMessages does some fancy animations and uses special emojis that
    some people care about.

    <snip>

    That whole emoji thing is rather amusing. I guess for kids it's fun but
    are adults really using them?

    I doubt if my wife has ever sent or received an iMessage on her iPhone.
    She uses Cortext secure messaging for work. The iPhone is strictly for
    work only. IT decides when upgrades will be installed and which apps
    will be installed. She has to carry a separate phone for personal use
    since iOS doesn't yet support multiple accounts on a single iPhone (see
    45a on page 38 of the document <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE/>).

    With an eSIM and a physical SIM on her iPhone it would be ideal if she
    could just pay for a separate line and have a separate Apple account,
    but that is not yet possible. This capability is present on Android.
    There is (or was) a jailbreak tweak that can get around this iOS
    limitation but of course you can't really jailbreak a corporate phone.
    The iUsers tweak is really intended for iPads (and iPads sold to the
    education market already support multiple users).

    In any case, we are using WhatsApp a lot more now because my wife and
    daughter use Android phones while I and my son use iPhones.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Thu Feb 23 19:06:59 2023
    In article <tt8ut7$20fjq$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    That whole emoji thing is rather amusing. I guess for kids it's fun but
    are adults really using them?

    some do, some don't. it's not required.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 24 00:42:31 2023
    nospam wrote:

    That whole emoji thing is rather amusing. I guess for kids it's fun but
    are adults really using them?

    some do, some don't. it's not required.

    The appeal, to kids, of emoji and bubble color gimmickry is understandable.

    However, the fact remains modern Android messaging apps do useful things
    that the iMessage app does not do, which I doubt the iKooks comprehend.

    The real question, for me anyway, is whether there is anything useful that
    the iMessage app does a modern Android messaging app doesn't already do?

    For example:
    *Pulse SMS* (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
    free, adfree, reqgsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

    What can the iOS messaging app do that this app doesn't (already) do?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Feb 24 01:23:48 2023
    On 2023-02-24, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 2/23/2023 10:20 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>
    Also iMessages does some fancy animations and uses special emojis
    that some people care about.
    <snip>

    That whole emoji thing is rather amusing. I guess for kids it's fun
    but are adults really using them?

    Adults have been using them (and emoticons) since the 1980s, and even as
    far back as 1648 in literature:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon>

    This hair-brained idea that they are supposedly only for children is a
    weak and transparent troll.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 24 03:17:13 2023
    On 2023-02-24, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <tt8ut7$20fjq$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    That whole emoji thing is rather amusing. I guess for kids it's fun
    but are adults really using them?

    some do, some don't. it's not required.

    Anyone claiming that they are only used by children or "little girls" is
    gate keeping and can be ignored by adults for being childish trolls.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 11:51:19 2023
    Am 24.02.23 um 01:42 schrieb Andy Burnelli:
    However, the fact remains modern Android messaging apps do useful things
    that the iMessage app does not do, which I doubt the iKooks comprehend.

    The real question, for me anyway, is whether there is anything useful that the iMessage app does a modern Android messaging app doesn't already do?

    For example:
    *Pulse SMS* (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
    free, adfree, reqgsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

    That is a simple SMS-client. Absolutely no match to iMsg.
    Your technical understanding is very underdevelopped.

    What can the iOS messaging app do that this app doesn't (already) do?

    Blue Bubbles. *SCNR*

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 11:47:59 2023
    Am 24.02.23 um 11:31 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
    Am 23.02.23 um 17:14 schrieb Alan Browne:
    On 2023-02-23 10:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 23.02.23 um 01:23 schrieb Andy Burnelli:
    HINT: Ask JollyRoger if he ever used a modern Android messaging app.

    Something that is simply inexistent. No modern messaging app has a
    connection to the Android-OS.

    Eh? There are plenty third party apps that are quite modern and served
    by strong systems (Signal, for example).

    They have no connection to the OS. They are simply third party apps.

    In addition to iMsg they exist also for iOS.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 11:31:57 2023
    Am 23.02.23 um 17:14 schrieb Alan Browne:
    On 2023-02-23 10:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 23.02.23 um 01:23 schrieb Andy Burnelli:
    HINT: Ask JollyRoger if he ever used a modern Android messaging app.

    Something that is simply inexistent. No modern messaging app has a
    connection to the Android-OS.

    Eh? There are plenty third party apps that are quite modern and served
    by strong systems (Signal, for example).

    They have no connection to the OS. They are simply third party apps.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Feb 24 08:47:01 2023
    On 2023-02-24 05:31, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 23.02.23 um 17:14 schrieb Alan Browne:
    On 2023-02-23 10:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 23.02.23 um 01:23 schrieb Andy Burnelli:
    HINT: Ask JollyRoger if he ever used a modern Android messaging app.

    Something that is simply inexistent. No modern messaging app has a
    connection to the Android-OS.

    Eh? There are plenty third party apps that are quite modern and served
    by strong systems (Signal, for example).

    They have no connection to the OS. They are simply third party apps.

    Irrelevant - the platform supports them and that's all that counts.
    Then there is the Google Messages, er, suite?, which is from the OS
    maker, but also an app layer.

    IAC, Apple Messages is also an app layer. It is distributed with the OS
    and maintained along with it. Deeper 'hooks' into the OS as well - but
    still an app.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Feb 25 10:30:28 2023
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-22 16:55, badgolferman wrote:



    Apple guilty of leveraging user experience to gain market share. Which
    is their job.

    Fiends. /s

    I recall reading some years ago that blind dates could end up on the
    rocks because one brings an Android to the table where the other has an iPhone. That's all it takes.

    Social pressures suck, but it's only been around for 10,000+ years.

    Friends shouldn’t let friends use Android garbage or if they do…disown them. It’s totally unacceptable. I’d rather go back to a flip phone.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Feb 25 10:31:27 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 22.02.23 um 22:55 schrieb badgolferman:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which says
    that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a key
    motivation.

    Do you have an obsession with this issue?

    Gen Z are the bogey along with Apple. Boomers!

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 11:43:22 2023
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:31 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 22.02.23 um 22:55 schrieb badgolferman:
    Gen Z is key to Apple’s dominance, according to a new report – which says
    that fear of being “the green bubble guy”‘ in group chats is a key >>> motivation.

    Do you have an obsession with this issue?

    Gen Z are the bogey along with Apple. Boomers!

    Badgolferman is certainly not a GenZ.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 11:47:37 2023
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:30 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-22 16:55, badgolferman wrote:

    <s>

    Apple guilty of leveraging user experience to gain market share. Which
    is their job.

    Fiends. /s

    I recall reading some years ago that blind dates could end up on the
    rocks because one brings an Android to the table where the other has an
    iPhone. That's all it takes.

    Social pressures suck, but it's only been around for 10,000+ years.

    Friends shouldn’t let friends use Android garbage or if they do…disown them. It’s totally unacceptable. I’d rather go back to a flip phone.

    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Feb 25 10:57:39 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:30 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-22 16:55, badgolferman wrote:

    <s>

    Apple guilty of leveraging user experience to gain market share. Which
    is their job.

    Fiends. /s

    I recall reading some years ago that blind dates could end up on the
    rocks because one brings an Android to the table where the other has an
    iPhone. That's all it takes.

    Social pressures suck, but it's only been around for 10,000+ years.

    Friends shouldn’t let friends use Android garbage or if they do…disown >> them. It’s totally unacceptable. I’d rather go back to a flip phone.

    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent? Green bubbles are indicative of incontinence. Threads such as
    this deserve pun cascades.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Sat Feb 25 13:01:47 2023
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:30 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-22 16:55, badgolferman wrote:

    <s>

    Apple guilty of leveraging user experience to gain market share. Which >>>> is their job.

    Fiends. /s

    I recall reading some years ago that blind dates could end up on the
    rocks because one brings an Android to the table where the other has an >>>> iPhone. That's all it takes.

    Social pressures suck, but it's only been around for 10,000+ years.

    Friends shouldn’t let friends use Android garbage or if they do…disown >>> them. It’s totally unacceptable. I’d rather go back to a flip phone.

    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent? Green bubbles are indicative of incontinence.

    I'm insouciant.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Feb 25 14:14:04 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    I kant say, not being a haydigger. Perhaps a humeanist education instead.

    Between Frankfurt and “Vienna” there was a continental divide though the former veered quite far from targeting the actual Circle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positivism_dispute

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 14:37:03 2023
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Feb 25 16:26:35 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Feb 25 18:01:45 2023
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.



    Is Europe even really a continent? Seems to be the same as Asia
    geologically, only different socially and culturally.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Feb 25 18:44:33 2023
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.

    Well if Mr Bean is Brit, is the Continent this?:

    https://youtu.be/JmeoLzVGkYU

    …or is Krautrock too regional and temporal? It would eventually become electro breakbeat (Detroit, Miami, and pre-NWA LA) then Chicago house then British trance/rave/dubstep. I don’t see Mr Bean smoking cloves and
    twirling glowsticks.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Feb 25 18:35:36 2023
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.



    Is Europe even really a continent? Seems to be the same as Asia
    geologically, only different socially and culturally.

    Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox, v Muslims (see former Yugoslavia). Adam
    Smith v Marx v Hayek/Popper/von Mises. Hume v Kant. Hegel v Schopenhauer
    (hated him some Hegel). German Critical Theory v French poststructuralism v
    wtf Zizek is even going on about. Neoliberal Germany v PIGS. Brexit UK
    (except Scotland) v Eurozone.

    Jesus, I was making a pun off Continental into incontinence. Continental is
    a car made by Lincoln right ;-) Just kidding, it’s breakfast style
    (sarcasm)?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Sat Feb 25 20:10:43 2023
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.

    Well if Mr Bean is Brit, is the Continent this?:

    https://youtu.be/JmeoLzVGkYU

    …or is Krautrock too regional and temporal?

    It's more like this :)
    https://youtube.com/@EurotrashTV

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 23:25:08 2023
    Am 25.02.23 um 19:01 schrieb badgolferman:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.



    Is Europe even really a continent? Seems to be the same as Asia
    geologically, only different socially and culturally.

    Europe is *the Continent*

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Feb 26 02:15:35 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 19:01 schrieb badgolferman:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 25.02.23 um 11:57 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    This kind of humor is absolutely indigestible for people from the
    Continent. A bit like Mr. Bean. Silly at best.

    Continent?

    Where did you get your education?

    TBF "The Continent" is a very European term.



    Is Europe even really a continent? Seems to be the same as Asia
    geologically, only different socially and culturally.

    Europe is *the Continent*

    Why Europe? Eurocentrism? South America and SE/South Asia have their
    pluses. F1 now has three tracks in the US and Sergio Perez is a top notch driver from Mexico.

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