• Home sales spike 14.5% in February

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 12:33:03 2023
    Home sales spike 14.5% in February as the median price drops for the
    first time in over a decade
    ...
    ...
    All-cash sales accounted for 28% of transactions in February, down
    from 29% in January but up from 25% in February 2022. Individual
    investors returned, making up 18% of buyers, up from 16% in January
    but down from 19% in February 2022.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/february-home-sales-spike.html

    Interesting stat suggesting there are investors afoot, who either buy
    them for rentals, or a future sell with a higher price (flippers).

    Retired persons from California, or retired persons, would represent a
    chunk of these cash buys. Moving into another state, etc.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Mar 21 21:16:34 2023
    On 2023-03-21, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    All-cash sales accounted for 28% of transactions in February, down
    from 29% in January but up from 25% in February 2022. Individual
    investors returned, making up 18% of buyers, up from 16% in January
    but down from 19% in February 2022.

    Retired persons from California, or retired persons, would represent a
    chunk of these cash buys. Moving into another state, etc.

    Looks to me like rich people getting richer, while poor people struggle
    to buy a home. 'MERICA, FUCK YEAH.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Mon Mar 27 12:21:35 2023
    On 3/21/2023 17:16, Retrograde wrote:
    On 2023-03-21, JAB<here@is.invalid> wrote:
    All-cash sales accounted for 28% of transactions in February, down
    from 29% in January but up from 25% in February 2022. Individual
    investors returned, making up 18% of buyers, up from 16% in January
    but down from 19% in February 2022.

    Retired persons from California, or retired persons, would represent a
    chunk of these cash buys. Moving into another state, etc.

    Looks to me like rich people getting richer, while poor people struggle
    to buy a home.

    That depends on the locale. I'm blown away at housing costs in large
    cities; Especially on the west coast. Around here, you can still get
    project homes for under $10k. People do land-contracts also, with a
    couple grand down. It makes literally no sense to waste money on rent.
    Of course, I can't speak for other metropolitan areas; but there are
    lots of cheap homes in Pittsburgh, PA (you can't be picky about the neighborhood). Poor people will find a way if they try.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to michael.trew@att.net on Mon Mar 27 11:49:02 2023
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:21:35 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    That depends on the locale.

    As a function of employment opportunities, housing tends to be much
    cheaper where fewer jobs and lower wages exist.

    And in northern US climates, those winter based heating bills may be
    quite high if 70F temp is maintained.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Mon Mar 27 18:17:22 2023
    On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:16:34 +0000, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Looks to me like rich people getting richer

    One current investor game is to buy a home with cash, then flip it.


    Investors flipped more than 407,000 single-family homes and condos
    last year, up 58% from 2020, according to data released Thursday by
    property data firm ATTOM. The average windfall on those sales:
    $67,900. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-money-flipping-house-days-154021082.html

    Or buy it, then rent it out

    Winifred Jones has been going through the emotional roller coaster
    that is trying to buy a home for six years. She wants a multifamily
    property in Hartford, Conn., so that her adult children can live with
    her but also have their own space. Every year, she says, there's been
    more and more competition, and more investors coming in and outbidding
    her with cash. She's so sick of getting outbid for homes and then
    seeing them come up for rentals a few months later that she and her
    realtor are thinking of trying to find homeowners who are going to
    sell before they officially list their properties for sale. Until
    then, she says, she has little optimism she'll find something.

    https://time.com/6261427/current-us-housing-market-inventory-low/


    Or buy directly from suckers and losers at much lower appraised
    value...

    We Buy Houses
    Fast Cash

    posted signs around a town.

    A new report shows that homes bought by investors off-market are, on
    average, sold for half the value than when listed on the market,
    primarily in low-income and minority neighbourhoods.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/03/how-to-fix-america-s-broken-housing-market/

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Mar 28 12:57:28 2023
    On 3/27/2023 12:49, JAB wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:21:35 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    That depends on the locale.

    As a function of employment opportunities, housing tends to be much
    cheaper where fewer jobs and lower wages exist.

    And in northern US climates, those winter based heating bills may be
    quite high if 70F temp is maintained.

    Unnecessary to maintain 70F anywhere. Perhaps for the infirm or
    elderly. I heat my house to 60. If you're broke and heat to 50, that's
    a good deal better than freezing to death.

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