• Dominion will win

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 12:11:17 2023
    My reasons for being confident Dominion will win and make history, as
    quoted in this fine @guardian essay

    theguardian.com
    How Dominion Voting Systems filing proves Fox News was 'deliberately
    lying'

    Document makes clear senior Fox News figures knew after 2020 election
    voter fraud claims were false - and it's likely a landmark case

    https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1627765321967849491

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Feb 21 20:20:42 2023
    On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:11:17 -0600
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    My reasons for being confident Dominion will win and make history, as
    quoted in this fine @guardian essay

    theguardian.com
    How Dominion Voting Systems filing proves Fox News was 'deliberately
    lying'

    Document makes clear senior Fox News figures knew after 2020 election
    voter fraud claims were false - and it's likely a landmark case

    Nothing sends a clear message to media channels about the implications
    of this kind of stuff, like watching Fox burn down to ashes and key
    individuals serve jail time. Rot in hell, Murdoch&Co. You were a
    shitty network anyway - you won't be missed.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 20:48:03 2023
    On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 20:20:42 -0500, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com>
    wrote:

    you won't be missed

    Fox makes money even when most people don't watch it on cable
    channels.

    A court won't bankrupt Fox...can't do that....

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 22 12:03:03 2023
    On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 20:20:42 -0500, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com>
    wrote:

    Nothing sends a clear message to media channels about the implications
    of this kind of stuff,

    What the Dominion lawsuit reveals about the future of Fox News
    ...
    ...
    Fox's core fear in late 2020 was that even the mildest pushback
    against election conspiracy theories would send big chunks of its
    audience to more extreme networks like Newsmax and One America News
    Network. Several executives landed on the same metaphor: "We're
    threading a needle that has to be thread because of the dumb fucks at
    Fox on Election Day," executive producer Justin Wells told his
    colleague Alec Pfeiffer. Or as Pfeiffer would tell Tucker Carlson,
    "It's a hard needle to thread, but I really think many on 'our side'
    are being reckless demagogues right now."

    https://www.cjr.org/opinion/what-the-dominion-lawsuit-reveals-about-the-future-of-fox-news.php

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Feb 22 21:41:03 2023
    On 2023-02-22, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 20:20:42 -0500, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com>
    wrote:

    Nothing sends a clear message to media channels about the implications
    of this kind of stuff,

    What the Dominion lawsuit reveals about the future of Fox News
    ...
    ...
    Fox's core fear in late 2020 was that even the mildest pushback
    against election conspiracy theories would send big chunks of its
    audience to more extreme networks like Newsmax and One America News
    Network. Several executives landed on the same metaphor: "We're
    threading a needle that has to be thread because of the dumb fucks at
    Fox on Election Day," executive producer Justin Wells told his
    colleague Alec Pfeiffer. Or as Pfeiffer would tell Tucker Carlson,
    "It's a hard needle to thread, but I really think many on 'our side'
    are being reckless demagogues right now."

    So, what this nation needs is some kind of standard, law, regulation,
    etc. (not sure what) that holds media outlets accountable. We've been
    far too loose for far too long. There need to be dire consequences for outright lying, and because there aren't (or are there? can't be arsed
    to find out) media outlets seem to be able to say whatever they want in
    the name of ratings, adverts, and the like.

    Tucker Carson needs to think, will I do jail time if I say this?

    Step two: apply something similar to Congress, who increasingly seems to
    view governance like some kind of Surivor television show.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Wed Feb 22 20:00:04 2023
    On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:41:03 +0000, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    So, what this nation needs is some kind of standard, law, regulation,
    etc. (not sure what) that holds media outlets accountable.

    I believe over in UK they do have such a law.

    News folks must get their facts straight, and be able to "prove" them,
    if needed.

    I'm surprised Dominion could access messages/etc at Fox, but IIRC, a
    corporate person can't take the fifth, nor hide/etc inside
    communications when requested by a court order.

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