• It was surreal

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 19 05:17:53 2022
    The identical twins who discovered their secret sibling

    A New York adoption agency deliberately split up infant twins in the
    1960s as part of a controversial study. Melissa Hogenboom tracks down
    some of those involved to find out why they are still searching for
    answers about this intrusive experiment.

    Kathy Seckler was 16 years old when she made an unexpected discovery
    that changed her life completely - she had an identical twin sister.
    It was 4 September 1977 - she recalls with utmost clarity, her voice
    wobbling only slightly - when a friend told her that she resembled a
    girl she knew called Lori Pritzl, and asked if she was adopted.
    Seckler's birthday was the same date as Pritzl's and the two girls
    looked exactly the same. Seckler had known she was adopted since a
    young age, enjoying a happy and loved upbringing, but she then learned
    that Pritzl had also been adopted from the same agency as her.

    The girls immediately spoke on the phone and realised their friend's
    suspicions must have been true - that they were twins. Seckler recalls
    breaking down in tears when she met her twin sister for the first
    time. "I saw Lori crossing the street... a big smile on her face," she
    says. "Then we hugged. It was quite an experience... I felt less
    alone. Being an adopted child, I always felt different... I felt like,
    'Wow, I have a comrade there'."

    They were both smokers, had similar artistic interests like dancing
    and drawing, and both liked music. "It was surreal," says Pritzl. "I
    felt like I was staring at myself in the mirror."

    They could have found out earlier - their similarity to each other had
    been pointed out previously by acquaintances who knew both families.
    Pritzl had shrugged it off - doesn't everyone occasionally hear that
    they look like someone else? However, the girls lived about 15 miles
    (24km) from each other they and had family friends in common.
    Unbeknownst to both girls, their parents had known about the other
    twin for about a decade, but had been told to keep it a secret.
    ...
    ...
    The agency had partnered with a group of psychiatrists and
    psychologists in an attempt to tease out what makes us who we are.
    They wanted to know how much of our identities are defined by our
    nature, and our nurture - but at what cost? For a BBC documentary
    about the study, I spoke with both identical and fraternal twin
    participants, as well as one of the original researchers involved, to
    explore why the twins today are still seeking answers about their
    unwitting involvement in this intrusive experiment.

    <https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220817-the-twins-who-were-split-up-at-birth?utm_source=bbc-news&utm_medium=right-hand-slot>

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to here@is.invalid on Fri Aug 19 18:21:35 2022
    In misc.news.internet.discuss, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    The identical twins who discovered their secret sibling

    A New York adoption agency deliberately split up infant twins in the
    1960s as part of a controversial study. Melissa Hogenboom tracks down
    some of those involved to find out why they are still searching for
    answers about this intrusive experiment.

    Mentioned in the article is the older documentary film about a set of
    split triplets:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Identical_Strangers

    Three Identical Strangers is a 2018 documentary film directed by Tim
    Wardle, about the lives of Edward Galland, David Kellman, and Robert
    Shafran, a set of identical triplet brothers adopted as infants by
    separate families. Combining archival footage, re-enacted scenes,
    and present-day interviews, it recounts how the triplet brothers
    discovered one another by chance in New York in 1980 at age 19,
    their public and private lives in the years that followed, and their
    eventual discovery that their adoption had been part of an
    undisclosed scientific "nature versus nurture" study of the
    development of genetically identical siblings raised in differing
    socioeconomic circumstances.

    ...

    They moved in together and opened a restaurant called Triplets
    Roumanian Steakhouse, which they operated together. Over time,
    however, differences between the three men became apparent, and
    their relationships with each other and others experienced
    difficulties. All three had struggled with mental health problems
    for years, and Galland died by suicide in 1995.

    ...

    The triplet brothers had been involved as children in a study by
    psychiatrists Peter B. Neubauer and Viola W. Bernard, under the
    auspices of the Jewish Board of Guardians, which involved periodic
    visits and evaluations of the boys, the full intent of which was
    never explained to the adoptive parents. Following the revelation
    that the boys were triplets, the parents sought more information
    from the Louise Wise adoption agency, who claimed that they had
    separated the boys because of the difficulty of placing triplets in
    a single household. But upon further investigation, it was revealed
    that the infants had been intentionally separated and placed with
    families having different parenting styles and economic levels -- one
    blue-collar, one middle-class, and one affluent -- as an experiment
    on human subjects.


    I remember it from when that came out. The "study" points to the need for ethics review boards when experimenting on living things, most
    especially humans. Wikipedia doesn't have the detail, but I recall that
    after study was made public, the results of it were barred from
    publication during the lifetime of the subjects. Ah, wait, here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_B._Neubauer

    At least three of the separated siblings apparently died by suicide.

    Yikes.

    The experiment was discussed in the 2007 memoir Identical Strangers:
    A Memoir of Twins Separated and Reunited by Elyse Schein and Paula
    Bernstein, as well as the documentary films The Twinning Reaction
    (2017) and Three Identical Strangers (2018) and the television
    episode Secret Siblings (2018). At the conclusion of the study in
    1980, Neubauer reportedly feared that public opinion would be
    against the study, and declined to publish it.

    Gee, I wonder why a study with such a high suicide rate would be
    controversial.

    The records of the study are sealed at the Yale University Library
    until October 25, 2065, although by 2018, some 10,000 pages had been
    released but were heavily redacted and inconclusive.

    Elijah
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    has not watched any of those documentaries

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to *@eli.users.panix.com on Fri Aug 19 18:19:34 2022
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:21:35 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    Gee, I wonder why a study with such a high suicide rate would be >controversial.

    Separated-at-birth triplets met tragic end after shocking psych
    experiment

    June 23, 2018
    ...
    ...
    After everything they went through, the study that so altered the
    triplets' lives was never published. Neubauer shelved his findings,
    and upon his death in 2008 and according to his orders, all documents
    related to the study were placed with Yale University and restricted
    until 2065.
    ...
    ...
    ...
    But in 1995, Galland, who had exhibited increasing signs of bipolar
    disorder, killed himself with a gun at his home in Maplewood, NJ.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/these-triplets-were-separated-at-birth-for-a-twisted-psych-study/

    Quick hunch...I'd say all three had different levels of bipolarism...

    "According to their adoptive parents, as babies, all three would
    regularly bang their heads against the bars of their cribs in
    distress."

    "We did do a lot of crazy things," Shafran told The Post. "Like march
    down 42nd Street with one of us perched on the other two's shoulders,
    stopping traffic...."

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