• Re: social media disruption

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 23:10:41 2024
    D wrote:


    (using Tor Browser 13.0.10) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+instagram+outage+2024

    hackers harvesting account login data from unwary social media
    users?

    If people insist on sharing their personal data with the likes
    of Meta they should be prepared for some sort of data harvesting
    from someone... even if it's only Meta themselves. Facebook
    accounts are free for a reason!

    usenet is always available, does not require login, and
    is where many former google groups users are finding new
    ways to stay connected ...

    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered with
    Google Groups in the first place!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 22:52:56 2024
    (using Tor Browser 13.0.10) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+instagram+outage+2024

    hackers harvesting account login data from unwary social media users?
    usenet is always available, does not require login, and is where many
    former google groups users are finding new ways to stay connected ...

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Mar 6 00:46:33 2024
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote: >D wrote:
    (using Tor Browser 13.0.10)
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+instagram+outage+2024
    hackers harvesting account login data from unwary social media
    users?

    If people insist on sharing their personal data with the likes
    of Meta they should be prepared for some sort of data harvesting
    from someone... even if it's only Meta themselves. Facebook
    accounts are free for a reason!

    usenet is always available, does not require login, and
    is where many former google groups users are finding new
    ways to stay connected ...

    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered with
    Google Groups in the first place!

    a few gg users had been described as "legitimate" by server admins and
    also by other non-gg users going back to circa 2002, and more recently
    in certain newsgroups which had been incomparably flooded with gg spam,
    e.g. "fr.soc.politique" which afaik might've been the number one worst
    victim of googlespam in history (lots of competition in that category);
    even duckduckgo's founder gabriel weinberg posted from gg back in 2012 news:0a93f572-2b7c-47e3-823e-cd78de80dfe6@js1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com
    so maybe there really were a significant number of legit gg users that
    could use welcome guidance and encouragement to continue participating
    in these mostly unmoderated usenet newsgroup forums...it's free to try

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Tue Mar 5 19:44:09 2024
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    hackers harvesting account login data from unwary social media
    users?

    If people

    I don't use Facefook/Meta, but hackers attempt to break-in in lots of
    different sites...hospitals, companies, government, etc.

    Unless a person is off-line, I suspect sooner or later everybody will
    get "stoned."

    Well, they'll stone you when you're trying to be so good
    They'll stone you just like they said they would
    They'll stone you when you're trying to go home
    And they'll stone you when you're there all alone
    But I would not feel so all alone
    Everybody must get stoned

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Tue Mar 5 19:46:09 2024
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered with
    Google Groups in the first place!

    GG was my backup NNTP server...only a few posts made there, in a long
    number of years.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 12:22:30 2024
    D wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    D wrote:

    usenet is always available, does not require login, and
    is where many former google groups users are finding new
    ways to stay connected ...

    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered
    with Google Groups in the first place!

    a few gg users had been described as "legitimate" by server
    admins and also by other non-gg users going back to circa
    2002

    [Snip]

    so maybe there really were a significant number of
    legit gg users that could use welcome guidance and
    encouragement to continue participating in these mostly
    unmoderated usenet newsgroup forums...it's free to try

    I'm sure there were responsible users of Google Groups, plenty
    of them. The alternatives were always out there though. People
    didn't need to wait until Google pulled the plug on their Usenet
    gateway in 2024 to find them. Usenet providers and nntp servers
    have never gone away!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Mar 6 14:47:00 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    D wrote:

    usenet is always available, does not require login, and
    is where many former google groups users are finding new
    ways to stay connected ...

    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered
    with Google Groups in the first place!

    a few gg users had been described as "legitimate" by server
    admins and also by other non-gg users going back to circa
    2002

    [Snip]

    so maybe there really were a significant number of
    legit gg users that could use welcome guidance and
    encouragement to continue participating in these mostly
    unmoderated usenet newsgroup forums...it's free to try

    I'm sure there were responsible users of Google Groups, plenty
    of them. The alternatives were always out there though. People
    didn't need to wait until Google pulled the plug on their Usenet
    gateway in 2024 to find them. Usenet providers and nntp servers
    have never gone away!


    I returned to usenet after a 20 years absense and I am surprised at how
    usable and enjoyable it actually is!

    Pure text, easy to integrate filters for unwanted content, and a broad
    range of discussion.

    The only thing at the moment is that it is a bit silent, but I think it's
    just a matter of time before people will rediscover and more people will
    start to use it, alternatively everyone (including myself) is free to
    start a conversation in one of the sleeping groups.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Mar 6 15:21:08 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 12:22:30 +0100, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote: >D wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:10:41 +0100, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    D wrote:
    usenet is always available, does not require login, and
    is where many former google groups users are finding new
    ways to stay connected ...
    If people had been clever enough they'd never have bothered
    with Google Groups in the first place!
    a few gg users had been described as "legitimate" by server
    admins and also by other non-gg users going back to circa
    2002
    [Snip]
    so maybe there really were a significant number of
    legit gg users that could use welcome guidance and
    encouragement to continue participating in these mostly
    unmoderated usenet newsgroup forums...it's free to try

    I'm sure there were responsible users of Google Groups, plenty
    of them. The alternatives were always out there though. People
    didn't need to wait until Google pulled the plug on their Usenet
    gateway in 2024 to find them. Usenet providers and nntp servers
    have never gone away!

    but using any web browser was so much easier, and many were already using
    or testing dejanews in addition to the traditional news server/newsreader;
    so when big brother ... err, i mean "google" ... absorbed deja into their illustrious empire, what could possibly go wrong? by the time their "beta" appeared (29 november 2004), google groups became increasingly unreliable, dysfunctional and for all practical purposes unusable as a search archive;
    but of course usenet, being autonomous and decentralized, never relied on web-based archives to begin with; easier to archive news articles locally,
    that way everything is already cherry-picked and spam/trolls filtered out;
    and some news servers have long rentention, some going back over a decade, making it easy to use a news reader (e.g. 40tude dialog) to search groups,
    or this tor-friendly web link http://put.hk and search for articles there

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