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  • Melting ice in Switzerland reveals

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 12:05:05 2023
    Melting ice in Switzerland reveals remains of climber who disappeared
    on glacier 37 years ago

    The remains of a German mountain climber who disappeared while hiking
    along a glacier near Switzerland's iconic Matterhorn mountain in 1986
    have been recovered, as melting glaciers have led to the reemergence
    of bodies and objects thought to be long-lost.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/melting-ice-switzerland-reveals-remains-climber-disappeared-glacier-37-rcna97048

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  • From Thomas@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Jul 30 15:08:31 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 1:05:08 PM UTC-4, JAB wrote:
    Melting ice in Switzerland reveals remains of climber who disappeared
    on glacier 37 years ago

    The remains of a German mountain climber who disappeared while hiking
    along a glacier near Switzerland's iconic Matterhorn mountain in 1986
    have been recovered, as melting glaciers have led to the reemergence
    of bodies and objects thought to be long-lost.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/melting-ice-switzerland-reveals-remains-climber-disappeared-glacier-37-rcna97048
    Are we back to the ice level we were at 37 years ago?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 19:31:38 2023
    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 15:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Are we back to the ice level we were at 37 years ago?

    Location, location, and location have different weather conditions,
    but Earth wise, ice/snow has been decreasing, mostly after mid 70s.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Jul 31 12:34:39 2023
    JAB wrote:

    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 15:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <canope234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Are we back to the ice level we were at 37 years ago?

    Location, location, and location have different weather conditions,
    but Earth wise, ice/snow has been decreasing, mostly after mid 70s.

    The thing is, if that body was in the ice for 37 years then it must mean
    that the snow/ice increased in those years, or the body wouldn't have
    been so far down in the glacier to be exposed when it melted. I assume
    the man died and the ice/snow formed over him, which means the ice
    couldn't have been decreasing... in that area anyway. He disappeared in
    1986 so those glaciers couldn't have been melting on that mountain then.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Mon Jul 31 06:10:25 2023
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:34:39 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The thing is, if that body was in the ice for 37 years then it must mean
    that the snow/ice increased in those years

    Has the Sun been shinning for 37 years where the body was found?

    What created those lakes?


    Theodul Glacier in Zermatt

    1.Most of the glacier is part of the year-round ski area

    2. Several lakes recently formed at the bottom of the Upper Theodul
    Glacier, west of Trockener Steg.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodul_Glacier


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/melting-ice-switzerland-reveals-remains-climber-disappeared-glacier-37-rcna97048

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Mon Jul 31 06:55:08 2023
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:22:44 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Yes, but it couldn't have been frozen when he died is my point.

    I have no idea where the body was found, nor how much snow fell since
    then, etc.

    Snow would melt more on sun exposed sides, and where warmer winds
    blow.

    It's been a year-round ski area, which suggests this area gets snow
    normally.

    As noted,

    2. Several lakes recently formed at the bottom of the Upper Theodul
    Glacier, west of Trockener Steg.

    This would suggest snow is turning into water, and they found his body recently. Again, location, location, and location determines what
    happened in each location.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Jul 31 13:22:44 2023
    JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:34:39 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The thing is, if that body was in the ice for 37 years then it must
    mean that the snow/ice increased in those years

    Has the Sun been shinning for 37 years where the body was found?

    What created those lakes?


    Theodul Glacier in Zermatt

    1.Most of the glacier is part of the year-round ski area

    2. Several lakes recently formed at the bottom of the Upper Theodul
    Glacier, west of Trockener Steg.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodul_Glacier



    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/melting-ice-switzerland-reveals-remains-climber-disappeared-glacier-37-rcna97048

    Yes, but it couldn't have been frozen when he died is my point. As his
    body would have collapsed on the surface, so the snow had to fall over
    him and ice form in to a glacier around him since his death... unless
    somebody came along with a shovel and buried his body. (Which seems
    highly unlikely, but not impossible.) The fact it's melting now is not
    the dispute as the body wouldn't have been uncovered by a glacier melting otherwise.

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