Yesterday, in a restaurant, I saw a person bleeding on
his face. Pouring down one side, apparently a scalp
wound, he didn't appear seriously injured.

Murphy's law, there was a cop inside, on break, I guess
the Dunkin Donuts was closed. He saw this, approached
the man, started the questioning.

Now what if he responds, "a little accident, I got nothing
to say, piss off." Does the cop have any right to harass
him? Official contact entails two criteria: a reasonable
belief that a crime has been committed, and reason to
believe the person is a suspect.

Can he detain the injured party, in the situation described?

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Rich

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"RichD" wrote in message news:c8aa6a97-2524-4cd9-88dc-6d55563afcbbn@googlegroups.com...

Yesterday, in a restaurant, I saw a person bleeding on
his face. Pouring down one side, apparently a scalp
wound, he didn't appear seriously injured.

Murphy's law, there was a cop inside, on break, I guess
the Dunkin Donuts was closed. He saw this, approached
the man, started the questioning.

Now what if he responds, "a little accident, I got nothing
to say, piss off." Does the cop have any right to harass
him? Official contact entails two criteria: a reasonable
belief that a crime has been committed, and reason to
believe the person is a suspect.

Can he detain the injured party, in the situation described?

--
Rich

Based just on the information provided, no. But let's say the cop got a
report of a crime being committed in the area and a suspect on the run
matching the general description of the person, then you'd have a different situation.

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On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichD wrote:

Yesterday, in a restaurant, I saw a person bleeding on
his face. Pouring down one side, apparently a scalp
wound, he didn't appear seriously injured.

Murphy's law, there was a cop inside, on break, I guess
the Dunkin Donuts was closed. He saw this, approached
the man, started the questioning.

Now what if he responds, "a little accident, I got nothing
to say, piss off." Does the cop have any right to harass
him? Official contact entails two criteria: a reasonable
belief that a crime has been committed, and reason to
believe the person is a suspect.

Can he detain the injured party, in the situation described?

--
Rich

I believe there is an exception for an injured person All injuries may
mot be visible. Certainly a few questions to ascertain if a person has suffered a concussion, stroke, or other problems with reasoning should
be allowed especially with a head injury. My wife had a stroke about a
month ago and for the first few hours in the ER, she was questioned
every 15-20 minutes or so with questions like: What is your name, what
is your birth date. do you know where you are, count backwards from 100
by sevens.

I could easily envision a scenario where the person is so drunk that
they fell down and hit their head. The person could be detained where
the officer thinks they are a danger to themselves or others

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"Roy" wrote in message news:t5kpt4$una$1@dont-email.me...

On 5/12/2022 10:40 AM, RichD wrote:

Yesterday, in a restaurant, I saw a person bleeding on
his face. Pouring down one side, apparently a scalp
wound, he didn't appear seriously injured.

Murphy's law, there was a cop inside, on break, I guess
the Dunkin Donuts was closed. He saw this, approached
the man, started the questioning.

Now what if he responds, "a little accident, I got nothing
to say, piss off." Does the cop have any right to harass
him? Official contact entails two criteria: a reasonable
belief that a crime has been committed, and reason to
believe the person is a suspect.

Can he detain the injured party, in the situation described?

--
Rich

I believe there is an exception for an injured person All injuries may mot >be visible. Certainly a few questions to ascertain if a person has
suffered a concussion, stroke, or other problems with reasoning should be >allowed especially with a head injury. My wife had a stroke about a month >ago and for the first few hours in the ER, she was questioned every 15-20 >minutes or so with questions like: What is your name, what is your birth >date. do you know where you are, count backwards from 100 by sevens.

I could easily envision a scenario where the person is so drunk that they >fell down and hit their head. The person could be detained where the
officer thinks they are a danger to themselves or others

That's a valid point. I would amend my response to say if the officer
believes the person to be impaired and to pose a possible risk to himself or others, he can definitely and probably should step in.

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