• Green cards "just in case" (again)

    From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 11:36:24 2024
    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting stateside in the
    early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much advance notice private
    flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question (and presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of news
    from the US, would anyone care ?

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Sat Jun 22 12:09:42 2024
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the
    incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting
    stateside in the early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much
    advance notice private flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question (and presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of news
    from the US, would anyone care ?

    Apparently a person's immigration status is subject to the Freedom of Information Act, so can be requested and should be disclosed.

    https://www.uscis.gov/records/request-records-through-the-freedom-of- information-act-or-privacy-act


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  • From Roy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 14:15:16 2024
    On 6/22/2024 11:36 AM, Jethro_uk wrote:
    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting stateside in the early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much advance notice private
    flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question (and presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of news
    from the US, would anyone care ?


    The only thing I worry about for people from the UK is that they have a
    valid green card, at ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization)
    or a visa.

    Note that green cards expire. You also "abandon" your green card by not
    living in the US for a year or more.

    People with valid green cards are allow to sponsor immediate family
    members for a green card

    Visitor visas would not apply to people attending school.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 08:59:51 2024
    Many thanks to both respondents (thus far). Very useful.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Sun Jun 23 09:00:32 2024
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:09:42 -0700, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:

    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the
    incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting
    stateside in the early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much advance
    notice private flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question (and
    presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in
    accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of news
    from the US, would anyone care ?

    Apparently a person's immigration status is subject to the Freedom of Information Act, so can be requested and should be disclosed.

    https://www.uscis.gov/records/request-records-through-the-freedom-of- information-act-or-privacy-act

    I have signed up, but (rather fairly) can't make a request about a 3rd
    party without their consent. Which I would be stretching the truth in a Trumpian manner to say I had.

    Oh, well, it's an irrelevance really. He'll be stateside soon. And no
    loss to us.

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Mon Jun 24 08:47:24 2024
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote in news:v590g2$istk$47@dont- email.me:

    On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:09:42 -0700, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:

    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the
    incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting
    stateside in the early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much
    advance
    notice private flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question
    (and
    presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that
    it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in
    accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of
    news
    from the US, would anyone care ?

    Apparently a person's immigration status is subject to the Freedom of
    Information Act, so can be requested and should be disclosed.

    https://www.uscis.gov/records/request-records-through-the-freedom-of-
    information-act-or-privacy-act

    I have signed up, but (rather fairly) can't make a request about a 3rd
    party without their consent. Which I would be stretching the truth in a Trumpian manner to say I had.

    Oh, well, it's an irrelevance really. He'll be stateside soon. And no
    loss to us.

    If you're talkint about David Cameron, here's an article saying he has
    "nothing to hide." Sounds like a kind of consent to me. :-)

    https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14411915.david-cameron-says-nothing- hide-selling-shares-worth-30-000/


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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Mon Jun 24 09:44:44 2024
    On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:47:24 -0700, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:

    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote in news:v590g2$istk$47@dont- email.me:

    On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:09:42 -0700, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:

    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With the UK general election going as well as predicted for the
    incumbent Conservative Party, their leader will likely be jetting
    stateside in the early hours of the 5th July (not sure how much
    advance
    notice private flights need).

    With accommodation and schools sorted, the step up life of tech bro
    awaits.

    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question
    (and
    presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    It was briefly mentioned in a recent debate on this very forum that
    it
    would be odd if he held one whilst in office, as that would not be in
    accordance with the idea behind the scheme.

    Is there an easy way to tell, and given the current generation of
    news
    from the US, would anyone care ?

    Apparently a person's immigration status is subject to the Freedom of
    Information Act, so can be requested and should be disclosed.

    https://www.uscis.gov/records/request-records-through-the-freedom-of-
    information-act-or-privacy-act

    I have signed up, but (rather fairly) can't make a request about a 3rd
    party without their consent. Which I would be stretching the truth in a
    Trumpian manner to say I had.

    Oh, well, it's an irrelevance really. He'll be stateside soon. And no
    loss to us.

    If you're talkint about David Cameron, here's an article saying he has "nothing to hide." Sounds like a kind of consent to me. :-)

    It's Rishi Sunak I would be more interested in. It's become an accepted
    fact that in the seconds after his party lose the election on July 4th
    (so independence for some, definitely) he will be de-assing the UK and
    starting his new second life as a mega respected Tech Bro in the silicon
    valley where he has already enrolled his children. For some reason his plaintive denials are taken as proof of this plan. But that is rather
    unfairly judging on past performance. Which I believe is frowned upon in
    polite society.

    Current polling is that while his party are possibly in for a
    "drubbing" (a word I encourage the colonies to use more :) ) he himself
    may be re-elected as a Member of Parliament. Meaning he will need to find
    a way to resign PDQ to catch the fall term.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 08:56:26 2024
    According to Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>:
    It's Rishi Sunak I would be more interested in. ...

    Current polling is that while his party are possibly in for a
    "drubbing" (a word I encourage the colonies to use more :) ) he himself
    may be re-elected as a Member of Parliament. Meaning he will need to find
    a way to resign PDQ to catch the fall term.

    David Cameron tendered his resignation the day after the Brexit vote.
    There wasn't an obvious successor so it took a couple of weeks for the
    party to pick Theresa May.

    If this election turns out as badly for the Cons as everyone predicts,
    I'd expect Sunak to resign even if he wins his own seat and he'll be
    in California in plenty of time to get the kids settled in school.





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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 17:48:34 2024
    According to Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com>:
    There is still some interest in whether the gentleman in question (and >presumably spouse and children) currently hold green cards.

    According to the BBC, Sunak turned in his green card in October 2021.
    Green cards are intended for people who live in the US and it is clear
    he lives in the UK, at least until July 4.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61044847

    Given their wealth and connections, I don't think he and his wife will
    have much trouble getting visas when they return.
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