• Won't sengtencing date be delayed due to appeals?

    From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 31 08:37:15 2024
    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which has
    been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the Republican convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so wouldn't the sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending the result of the appeal?

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Rick on Fri May 31 10:38:08 2024
    On Fri, 31 May 2024 08:37:15 -0700, Rick wrote:

    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which
    has been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the
    Republican convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so wouldn't the sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending
    the result of the appeal?

    Are appeals automatically granted ?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Rick on Fri May 31 10:37:33 2024
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 31 May 2024 08:37:15 -0700 (PDT),
    "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which has >been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the Republican >convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so wouldn't the >sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending the result of the >appeal?

    Appeals do not delay sentencing (at least in NYS). In fact the appeal
    cannot be filed until until he is sentenced and, acc to one old guest**
    lawyer, he's not even considered convicted until he's sentenced. But I
    think I heard with one ear some remark by a news person that some motion
    could delay it.

    **I might know who he was except... Normally I only listen to the news,
    but yesterday, MSNBC (which I consider to be anti-Israel) allowed me to
    watch all day for free (instead of only 10 minutes a day for those who
    don't have cable TV). But despite watching, they only say who is
    talking I suppose when they first introduce a guest, but after he says something interesting when you want to know who it is, they never say
    again. They don't say good-bye by name when he's leaving either, even
    though I wrote to them a year ago and pointed out how many ways there
    are, and they know there are***, to listen only to their station, and
    how even many people who are watching don't remember the intro at the
    start before a guest has said something important. .... And even the
    hosts were not identified.

    Instead they have 2 and a half layers of chyron, that say the same thing
    all day, something like "Donald trump convicted" on one line, and "MSNBC special report" on another, things everyone knows or would know after 3
    minutes of watching. I wrote them about that in the same email. It is
    just so stupid. It's the stupidity that bothers me more than not
    knowing who is talking. The other networks are no better, afaicr.

    ***Tune-in, webpages, webradio (There are dedicated internet radios.
    Mine cost $250, but it's a disappointment, largely because the
    advertising is so much louder than the programming, and when I'm lying
    in bed it wakes me up instead of putting me to sleep. And even in the
    day time, the advertising is so loud I have to turn it down, then turn
    it back up again for the program. Very disappointing)

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Rick on Fri May 31 10:39:47 2024
    "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote in news:v3co1d$294q7$1@dont-email.me:

    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which
    has been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the
    Republican convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so wouldn't the sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending
    the result of the appeal?

    Apparently an appeal can't be filed until after sentencing.


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    Stu
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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Fri May 31 15:35:55 2024
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
    Rick wrote:

    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which
    has been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the
    Republican convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so
    wouldn't the sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending
    the result of the appeal?

    Are appeals automatically granted ?

    If one is requested, an "appeal" is required to be heard. In some cases an appeal is not guaranteed, and the person objecting to a court order has to
    ask for a writ instead of an appeal. In that case whether or not to hear
    the claim is discretionary with the court. In this case it would, in fact,
    be an appeal. But then if he eventually wants to go to the US Supreme
    Court, that will not technically be an appeal, so may or may not be heard
    by the Court.


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  • From micky@21:1/5 to misc07@fmguy.com on Sat Jun 1 21:12:19 2024
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 31 May 2024 10:37:33 -0700 (PDT), micky <misc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 31 May 2024 08:37:15 -0700 (PDT),
    "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

    Much has been made in the press about the Trump sentencing date, which has >>been set by the judge for July 11, just four days before the Republican >>convention. But it's obvious Trump is going to appeal, so wouldn't the >>sentencing date normally be delayed at that point pending the result of the >>appeal?

    Appeals do not delay sentencing (at least in NYS). In fact the appeal
    cannot be filed until until he is sentenced and, acc to one old guest** >lawyer, he's not even considered convicted until he's sentenced. But I
    think I heard with one ear some remark by a news person that some motion >could delay it.

    Heard a rerun of what I heard before: A 330 motion to set aside the
    verdict could delay the sentencing, some woman lawyer on tv** said. When
    that is denied, he'll be sentenced. If I heard correctly (should have
    been listening instead of typing) it can take months to deny it.

    The presentencing report (PSR), which can include interview information
    from family and friends, and other court results, and an interview, and
    it seems just about eveything, will go to the court and both parties but
    will not be public. (Darn, I wanted to hear what others said about
    him.)

    **It's TV but I only listen.

    **I might know who he was except... Normally I only listen to the news,
    but yesterday, MSNBC (which I consider to be anti-Israel) allowed me to
    watch all day for free (instead of only 10 minutes a day for those who
    don't have cable TV). But despite watching, they only say who is
    talking I suppose when they first introduce a guest, but after he says >something interesting when you want to know who it is, they never say
    again. They don't say good-bye by name when he's leaving either, even
    though I wrote to them a year ago and pointed out how many ways there
    are, and they know there are***, to listen only to their station, and
    how even many people who are watching don't remember the intro at the
    start before a guest has said something important. .... And even the >hosts were not identified.

    Instead they have 2 and a half layers of chyron, that say the same thing
    all day, something like "Donald trump convicted" on one line, and "MSNBC >special report" on another, things everyone knows or would know after 3 >minutes of watching. I wrote them about that in the same email. It is
    just so stupid. It's the stupidity that bothers me more than not
    knowing who is talking. The other networks are no better, afaicr.

    ***Tune-in, webpages, webradio (There are dedicated internet radios.
    Mine cost $250, but it's a disappointment, largely because the
    advertising is so much louder than the programming, and when I'm lying
    in bed it wakes me up instead of putting me to sleep. And even in the
    day time, the advertising is so loud I have to turn it down, then turn
    it back up again for the program. Very disappointing)

    --
    I think you can tell, but just to be sure:
    I am not a lawyer.

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