https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-michael-cohen-ec08be1219703deb3cd10604844deacb

Blanche said that was a lie, confronting Cohen with texts indicating
that what was on his mind, at least initially, during the phone call
were harassing calls he was getting from an apparent 14-year-old
prankster. Cohen said he believed he also spoke to Trump about the
Daniels deal.

�We are not asking for your belief. This jury does not want to hear what
you think happened,� Blanche said, his voice growing even louder,
prompting an objection from the prosecutor.

Really? isn't that the only thing any witness can testify to?

Or is Blanche suggesting/saying that when a witness doesn't use the word "believe", it's more reliable than what he merely believes, that it
means he is telling the truth.

Won't the lawyers on the jury notice this, if not everyone?

Woudln't the jurors notice and object to his saying what the jury wants
and doesn't want to hear? If I were a juror, I'd be interested in what
he believes.



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On 5/25/2024 11:54 AM, micky wrote:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-michael-cohen-ec08be1219703deb3cd10604844deacb

Blanche said that was a lie, confronting Cohen with texts indicating
that what was on his mind, at least initially, during the phone call
were harassing calls he was getting from an apparent 14-year-old
prankster. Cohen said he believed he also spoke to Trump about the
Daniels deal.

“We are not asking for your belief. This jury does not want to hear what you think happened,” Blanche said, his voice growing even louder,
prompting an objection from the prosecutor.

Really? isn't that the only thing any witness can testify to?

Or is Blanche suggesting/saying that when a witness doesn't use the word "believe", it's more reliable than what he merely believes, that it
means he is telling the truth.

I agree. If I were on the jury, I would put less faith in what the
witness "believes" happened than what he says happened. I would rank
such statements (from top to bottom):
This happened.
I believe this happened.
I think this happened
I think it likely that this happened.

Won't the lawyers on the jury notice this, if not everyone?

I don't think it matters whether or not they are lawyers. That is the
usual English meaning of those statements.

Woudln't the jurors notice and object to his saying what the jury wants
and doesn't want to hear? If I were a juror, I'd be interested in what
he believes.

Yeah. I'll decide what I want to hear on my own. The judge, of course,
gets to decide what we actually get to hear - some things are
irrelevant, immaterial ("doesn't make a difference"), prejudicial, or
otherwise inadmissible. But the opposing lawyer is supposed to state his grounds for objecting - one of the above or some other that I didn't
list because IANAL.

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"micky" wrote in message news:a9u25j17bkv1d8rk7janeikjrjl1d2rk44@4ax.com...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-michael-cohen-ec08be1219703deb3cd10604844deacb

Blanche said that was a lie, confronting Cohen with texts indicating
that what was on his mind, at least initially, during the phone call
were harassing calls he was getting from an apparent 14-year-old
prankster. Cohen said he believed he also spoke to Trump about the
Daniels deal.

“We are not asking for your belief. This jury does not want to hear what >you think happened,” Blanche said, his voice growing even louder,
prompting an objection from the prosecutor.

Really? isn't that the only thing any witness can testify to?

Or is Blanche suggesting/saying that when a witness doesn't use the word >"believe", it's more reliable than what he merely believes, that it
means he is telling the truth.

Won't the lawyers on the jury notice this, if not everyone?

Woudln't the jurors notice and object to his saying what the jury wants
and doesn't want to hear? If I were a juror, I'd be interested in what
he believes.

The jury does not want to hear what a witness "believes" he or she did. The jury wants to know what the witness did. Period. If Cohen couldn't
remember for sure if he talked to Trump, then his testimony on that point is worthless and the prosecutor's comment was completely appropriate.

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"micky" wrote in message
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-michael-cohen-ec08be1219703deb3cd10604844deacb

Blanche said that was a lie, confronting Cohen with texts indicating
that what was on his mind, at least initially, during the phone call
were harassing calls he was getting from an apparent 14-year-old
prankster. Cohen said he believed he also spoke to Trump about the
Daniels deal.

“We are not asking for your belief. This jury does not want to hear what >>you think happened,” Blanche said, his voice growing even louder, >>prompting an objection from the prosecutor.

Really? isn't that the only thing any witness can testify to?

Or is Blanche suggesting/saying that when a witness doesn't use the word >>"believe", it's more reliable than what he merely believes, that it
means he is telling the truth.

Won't the lawyers on the jury notice this, if not everyone?

Woudln't the jurors notice and object to his saying what the jury wants
and doesn't want to hear? If I were a juror, I'd be interested in what
he believes.

The jury does not want to hear what a witness "believes" he or she did.
The jury wants to know what the witness did. Period. If Cohen couldn't >remember for sure if he talked to Trump, then his testimony on that point
is worthless and the prosecutor's comment was completely appropriate.

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Correction - the defense lawyer comment was appropriate.

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