If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top of
the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and breaks some
of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he have to pay
for the damage to the plane?

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"micky" wrote in message news:41h1vidkj8qhanng612qgofvq5un5m5b35@4ax.com...

If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top of
the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and breaks some
of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he have to pay
for the damage to the plane?

I seriously doubt if any airline would go after a passenger in this
situation. Normally, it would be the passenger trying to sue the airline.

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In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:20:16 -0700 (PDT),
"Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

"micky" wrote in message news:41h1vidkj8qhanng612qgofvq5un5m5b35@4ax.com... >>

If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top of
the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and breaks some
of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he have to pay
for the damage to the plane?

I seriously doubt if any airline would go after a passenger in this >situation. Normally, it would be the passenger trying to sue the airline.

True, but maybe the passenger would sue the airline and the airline
would countersue. You wouldn't have been hurt if you'd worn your
seatbelt like the lighted sign told you to do, and you wouldn't have
broken our plane. Even if we have to pay you, the amount will be
decreased by the damage you did to our plane.

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 22:15:39 -0700, micky wrote:

If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top of
the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and breaks some
of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he have to pay
for the damage to the plane?

Haven't there been cases where drivers have sued badly injured
pedestrians and cyclists (or their estates) for the damage their
negligence caused to vehicles ? Sure there was at least one case in the
UK. A good example of having a right in law, but possibly not in the
court of public opinion.

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micky <misc07@fmguy.com> wrote in news:2gd4vil8kn5ilhdri665igukd7ddv2aufr@4ax.com:

In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:20:16 -0700 (PDT),
"Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

"micky" wrote in message >>news:41h1vidkj8qhanng612qgofvq5un5m5b35@4ax.com...

If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top
of the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and
breaks some of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he >>>have to pay for the damage to the plane?

I seriously doubt if any airline would go after a passenger in this >>situation. Normally, it would be the passenger trying to sue the
airline.

True, but maybe the passenger would sue the airline and the airline
would countersue. You wouldn't have been hurt if you'd worn your
seatbelt like the lighted sign told you to do, and you wouldn't have
broken our plane. Even if we have to pay you, the amount will be
decreased by the damage you did to our plane.

Yes, technically that would be possible. If the passenger was negligent
and that caused damage, he could be held liable. His homeowner's
insurance might cover him though.

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"micky" wrote in message news:2gd4vil8kn5ilhdri665igukd7ddv2aufr@4ax.com...

In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:20:16 -0700 (PDT),
"Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

"micky" wrote in message >>news:41h1vidkj8qhanng612qgofvq5un5m5b35@4ax.com...

If a passenger is not wearing his seatbelt when the Seatbelt Light is
on, and the plane does a nosedive, and he or she goes up to the top of >>>the passenger compartment, bashes it with his head, etc. and breaks some >>>of the parts of the plane, plastic panels etc., should he have to pay
for the damage to the plane?

I seriously doubt if any airline would go after a passenger in this >>situation. Normally, it would be the passenger trying to sue the airline.

True, but maybe the passenger would sue the airline and the airline
would countersue. You wouldn't have been hurt if you'd worn your
seatbelt like the lighted sign told you to do, and you wouldn't have
broken our plane. Even if we have to pay you, the amount will be
decreased by the damage you did to our plane.

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No, there is no way a major airline (or even a minor one) would sue a
passenger in this situation. That would be a public relations nightmare.
If an aircraft goes through such major turbulence that a passenger is
literally hurled like a missile to the point where it damages the aircraft,
the airline's first concern from a PR standpoint is to take care of the passenger and bend over backwards to help the passenger. Even if there was some legal basis for saying the passenger was negligent in not following instructions (and there could be all kinds of defenses here, e.g., the passenger didn't hear or see the seatbelt notice, the seatbelt
malfunctioned, the passenger accidentally opened the seatbelt, the passenger was asleep, one of the passenger's kids was fooling around and opened the seatbelt to be funny, etc.) the airline is not going to sully their relationship with what would be perceived as a petty and inhumane move.

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