• Warranty covers only the Original Owner

    From Leonard S.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 10 18:54:45 2023
    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a gift to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory multi-year warranty covers only the Original Owner and is not transferable. What would be a legally sound way to exercise
    that warranty by the gift recipient?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Leonard S. on Fri Nov 10 20:51:36 2023
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:54:45 -0800 (PST),
    "Leonard S." <leonard.skemp@gmail.com> wrote:

    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a gift to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory multi-year warranty covers only the Original Owner and is not transferable. What would be a legally sound way to exercise
    that warranty by the gift recipient?

    I would ask a different question. Who is the best gift recipient? I
    would give it to my friend's youngest child.

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  • From Roy@21:1/5 to Leonard S. on Sun Nov 12 20:46:14 2023
    On 11/10/2023 6:54 PM, Leonard S. wrote:
    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a gift to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory multi-year warranty covers only the Original Owner and is not transferable. What would be a legally sound way to exercise
    that warranty by the gift recipient?



    The original owner would be the one who fills out the warranty registration

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 08:33:59 2023
    "Leonard S." wrote in message news:e5171137-324c-4c93-bb22-48a5d571933bn@googlegroups.com...

    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a gift
    to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory multi-year warranty >covers only the Original Owner and is not transferable. What would be a >legally sound way to exercise that warranty by the gift recipient?

    Not sure I get the point of this question. If the warranty explicitly
    states it covers Original Owner only and is not transferable, why do you
    think there is some legal means for transferring coverage to the person to
    whom you are gifting the item? When you originally purchased the item, you either knew or should have known what the warranty covered and how it
    worked. If you didn't like the terms, you should have either tried
    negotiating a different warranty with the seller or simply not bought the
    item. Now if you are alleging the warranty was misstated or different from what you were told when you bought the item, then that's a different case.
    But barring that, I really don't see what you are trying to do here.

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 08:54:18 2023
    "Leonard S." wrote in message news:e5171137-324c-4c93-bb22-48a5d571933bn@googlegroups.com...

    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a gift
    to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory multi-year warranty >covers only the Original Owner and is not transferable. What would be a >legally sound way to exercise that warranty by the gift recipient?

    Not sure I get the point of this question. If the warranty explicitly
    states it covers Original Owner only and is not transferable, why do you
    think there is some legal means for transferring coverage to the person to
    whom you are gifting the item? When you originally purchased the item, you either knew or should have known what the warranty covered and how it
    worked. If you didn't like the terms, you should have either tried
    negotiating a different warranty with the seller or simply not bought the
    item. Now if you are alleging the warranty was misstated or different from what you were told when you bought the item, then that's a different case.
    But barring that, I really don't see what you are trying to do here.

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  • From Barry Gold@21:1/5 to Rick on Mon Nov 13 22:43:42 2023
    On 11/13/2023 8:33 AM, Rick wrote:
    "Leonard S."  wrote in message news:e5171137-324c-4c93-bb22-48a5d571933bn@googlegroups.com...

    An expensive, non-portable electronic device has been purchased as a
    gift to a person who lives in a different state. Its factory
    multi-year warranty covers only the Original Owner and is not
    transferable. What would be a legally sound way to exercise that
    warranty by the gift recipient?

    Not sure I get the point of this question.  If the warranty explicitly states it covers Original Owner only and is not transferable, why do you think there is some legal means for transferring coverage to the person to whom you are gifting the item?  When you originally purchased the item, you either knew or should have known what the warranty covered and how it worked.  If you didn't like the terms, you should have either tried negotiating a different warranty with the seller or simply not bought the item.  Now if you are alleging the warranty was misstated or different from what you were told when you bought the item, then that's a different case. But barring that, I really don't see what you are trying to do here.

    In most cases that I've seen, you don't see the warranty until after
    you've bought the device and opened the box. So one possibility would be
    to return it as having an unsatisfactory warrantee.

    I'm inclined to agree with Roy on this one: the "original owner" is the
    person who first starts using it. I suspect this is also what the
    manufacturer had in mind: they don't want the item transferred from one
    person to another over a period of years and try to keep track of who
    the actual owner is.


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  • From Leonard S.@21:1/5 to Barry Gold on Tue Nov 14 13:02:46 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:43:46 AM UTC-6, Barry Gold wrote:
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    I'm inclined to agree with Roy on this one: the "original owner" is the person who first starts using it.
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    Example: a gift purchased using an Amazon account and meant to be wrapped and placed near the Christmas tree, labeled with the gift receiver's name. The proof of purchase will show the purchaser (the Amazon account holder) and assumed by the manufacturer
    to be "the first owner". No warranty registration exists for this particular item. How to declare the gift recipient as the "Original owner" in the way acceptable to the manufacturer?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Leonard S. on Sat Dec 2 16:29:44 2023
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:02:46 -0800 (PST),
    "Leonard S." <leonard.skemp@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:43:46 AM UTC-6, Barry Gold wrote:
    .......
    I'm inclined to agree with Roy on this one: the "original owner" is the
    person who first starts using it.
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    Example: a gift purchased using an Amazon account and meant to be wrapped and placed near the Christmas tree, labeled with the gift receiver's name. The proof of purchase will show the purchaser (the Amazon account holder) and assumed by the
    manufacturer to be "the first owner". No warranty registration exists for this particular item. How to declare the gift recipient as the "Original owner" in the way acceptable to the manufacturer?

    Is this a hypothetical and the item is not yet determined? Or do you
    have a particular item in mind, that you could describe to us.

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