• California Small Claims Court/LC Serving a Party Withonly a PO Box Addr

    From Sam@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 22:02:41 2023
    This is an LC case($1001 to $9999) so I can't serve the other party the
    court case answer by certified mail using the small claims clerk. However
    there is no way to serve the party through a process server if all they
    have is a PO BOX to serve to.

    I can not file a motion with the court because I can't serve the other
    party. How do I handle this? Otherwise I will default on the case with no chance to answer the complaint.

    Thanks for any help.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to samt@samt.invalid on Sat Sep 16 09:08:12 2023
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 15 Sep 2023 22:02:41 -0700 (PDT), Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    This is an LC case($1001 to $9999) so I can't serve the other party the
    court case answer by certified mail using the small claims clerk. However >there is no way to serve the party through a process server if all they
    have is a PO BOX to serve to.

    I can not file a motion with the court because I can't serve the other
    party. How do I handle this? Otherwise I will default on the case with no >chance to answer the complaint.

    Thanks for any help.

    I think there is someone here from California, but in addition, won't
    the County Clerk answer questions like this? Or whatever office
    handles the paperwork for claims like this. If the clerk in your
    county is somehow unhelpful, there are other counties and I think all
    have the same rules. I have found, at least with electrical supply
    stores, that if you call an hour before closing, they've done all their
    work for the day, are just waiting to go home, and may be happy to talk
    at length, but the basic question you have is part of their job and they
    should answer it even in the morning.

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Sep 16 21:09:51 2023
    micky <misc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 15 Sep 2023 22:02:41 -0700 (PDT),
    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    This is an LC case($1001 to $9999) so I can't serve the other
    party the court case answer by certified mail using the small
    claims clerk. However there is no way to serve the party through a
    process server if all they have is a PO BOX to serve to.

    I can not file a motion with the court because I can't serve the
    other party. How do I handle this? Otherwise I will default on the
    case with no chance to answer the complaint.

    Thanks for any help.

    I think there is someone here from California, but in addition,
    won't the County Clerk answer questions like this? Or whatever
    office handles the paperwork for claims like this. If the clerk
    in your county is somehow unhelpful, there are other counties and
    I think all have the same rules. I have found, at least with
    electrical supply stores, that if you call an hour before closing,
    they've done all their work for the day, are just waiting to go
    home, and may be happy to talk at length, but the basic question
    you have is part of their job and they should answer it even in
    the morning.

    I'm from California. The court clerk won't answer these questions,
    but each small claims court has an attorney who is a small claims
    advisor - free advice for litigants.

    The best answer to the question will depend on the status of the
    defendant. If it's a corporation or an LLC, they will have an Agent
    for Service of Process on file with the Secretary of State, and
    that's who to have the clerk mail the notice to.

    If the person is an individual, process services are often
    investigators, and have ways to track down people to serve them. And
    their fees will be added to your judgment. So rely on a
    professional.


    --
    Stu
    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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  • From Sam@21:1/5 to spamtrap@lexregia.com on Mon Sep 18 21:48:41 2023
    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT), "Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap@lexregia.com> wrote:

    I'm from California. The court clerk won't answer these questions,
    but each small claims court has an attorney who is a small claims
    advisor - free advice for litigants.


    You are right about the court clerks not answering legal questions.
    However, I have a Limited Case and the small claims court advisor will not
    help me either. I will look up the Registered Agent for the bank and serve
    that address. Although the superior court web site says service must be to
    the address that is listed at the top of my summons, but I can not serve
    that address.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to samt@samt.invalid on Tue Sep 19 09:41:33 2023
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT), "Stuart O. Bronstein" ><spamtrap@lexregia.com> wrote:

    I'm from California. The court clerk won't answer these questions,
    but each small claims court has an attorney who is a small claims
    advisor - free advice for litigants.


    You are right about the court clerks not answering legal questions.

    Maybe they shouldn't have done it but they were very helpful to me in
    Baltimore County. 30 years ago fwiw.

    However, I have a Limited Case and the small claims court advisor will not >help me either. I will look up the Registered Agent for the bank and serve

    This is a bank that only has a post office box for an address? Shifty
    enough in the first place, worse that it's a bank. Maybe you can serve
    an ATM?

    that address. Although the superior court web site says service must be to >the address that is listed at the top of my summons, but I can not serve
    that address.

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Sam on Tue Sep 19 13:15:58 2023
    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap@lexregia.com> wrote:

    I'm from California. The court clerk won't answer these
    questions, but each small claims court has an attorney who is a
    small claims advisor - free advice for litigants.

    You are right about the court clerks not answering legal
    questions.
    However, I have a Limited Case and the small claims court advisor
    will not help me either. I will look up the Registered Agent for
    the bank and serve that address. Although the superior court web
    site says service must be to the address that is listed at the top
    of my summons, but I can not serve that address.

    I don't know what address is on the summons, but serving at a specific
    address is not required as long as they are properly served. The
    Secretary of State's website, if you don't have it is:

    http://sos.ca.gov

    If you are suing a bank, however, any teller of the bank can be served.
    You can't personally serve it, but any other person over 18 can do
    that.

    Good luck.


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    Stu
    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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