Not necessarily a legal question, but the idea of the US adopting a
monarch seems almost quaint.
You're free to have ours from the UK, if you like. Assuming he can
withstand the shipping.
In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:01:23 -0700 (PDT),
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
Not necessarily a legal question, but the idea of the US adopting a
monarch seems almost quaint.
You're free to have ours from the UK, if you like. Assuming he can >>withstand the shipping.
The judge assigned to the recent case (Jan 6? Election sabotage? ) a
year or two ago ruled on a motion or something and said “Presidents are >not kings, and Plaintiff is not President,” Chutkan wrote of Trump. “He >retains the right to assert that his records are privileged, but the >incumbent President 'is not constitutionally obliged to honor' that.”
We have had the King of Swing, the Queen of Soul, and the Sultan of
Swat. And maybe some other royalty.
My OP was prompted by a teaser from Sky (UK) which was
interviewing a "regular citizen" who was saying they'd happily
accept a King Trump of the US.
Don't tell me an august and respected news organisation renowned
for the highest standards of journalism found a lone nut job in
the US and portrayed them in the UK as "the voice of America" ?
What is the world coming to ?
But it does raised the question - prompted by symmetry - if there
is any monarchist sentiment in the US ? We have a quite vocal
republican pressure group in the UK.
My OP was prompted by a teaser from Sky (UK) which was interviewing a >"regular citizen" who was saying they'd happily accept a King Trump of
the US.
Don't tell me an august and respected news organisation renowned for the >highest standards of journalism found a lone nut job in the US and
portrayed them in the UK as "the voice of America" ? What is the world
coming to ?
But it does raised the question - prompted by symmetry - if there is any >monarchist sentiment in the US ? We have a quite vocal republican
pressure group in the UK.
....
The real question is do people in the US want an autocratic dictatorship where the people have no say in the choice of a leader, and I don't see
any strong evidence of that. People in the US are sharply divided in
the specifics of various laws and the definitions and parameters of individual rights, but I think there is general agreement that the
leader should be chosen through some flavor of election by the people (whether direct popular vote or through election of state electors). I think the percentage of Americans that would actually favor a return to
a true monarchy would be very small.
--
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent topics
- Lets ignore the supreme court
- Lets ignore Congress
- Lets ignore the second amendment
- Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with: Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do away with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that one
On 8/5/2023 12:23 PM, Rick wrote:
....
The real question is do people in the US want an autocratic
dictatorship where the people have no say in the choice of a
leader, and I don't see any strong evidence of that. People in
the US are sharply divided in the specifics of various laws and
the definitions and parameters of individual rights, but I think
there is general agreement that the leader should be chosen
through some flavor of election by the people (whether direct
popular vote or through election of state electors). I think
the percentage of Americans that would actually favor a return to
a true monarchy would be very small.
--
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent
topics
- Lets ignore the supreme court
- Lets ignore Congress
- Lets ignore the second amendment
- Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with: Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do away
with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that one
On 8/5/2023 12:23 PM, Rick wrote:
....
The real question is do people in the US want an autocratic dictatorship
where the people have no say in the choice of a leader, and I don't see
any strong evidence of that. People in the US are sharply divided in the
specifics of various laws and the definitions and parameters of
individual rights, but I think there is general agreement that the leader
should be chosen through some flavor of election by the people (whether
direct popular vote or through election of state electors). I think the
percentage of Americans that would actually favor a return to a true
monarchy would be very small.
--
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent topics
- Lets ignore the supreme court
- Lets ignore Congress
- Lets ignore the second amendment
- Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with: Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do away with >income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that one
Roy wrote:
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent
topics
- Lets ignore the supreme court
- Lets ignore Congress
- Lets ignore the second amendment
- Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with: Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do
away with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that
one
Until the Social Security checks stop arriving. And the soldiers,
sailors, etc. stop getting paid. And all the national parks and
monuments close. And illegal aliens pour across the border in
(even bigger) droves because there's no border patrol.
Without the income tax, there is (almost) no money to pay for
ANYTHING the federal government does.
Be careful what you wish for: you might get it.
"Stuart O. Bronstein" wrote in message news:XnsB0585FD908A5Cavocatstuyahoofr@130.133.4.11...
Barry Gold <bgold@labcats.org> wrote:
Roy wrote:
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent
topics
-Â Lets ignore the supreme court
-Â Lets ignore Congress
-Â Lets ignore the second amendment
-Â Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with:Â Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do
away with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that
one
Until the Social Security checks stop arriving. And the soldiers,
sailors, etc. stop getting paid. And all the national parks and
monuments close. And illegal aliens pour across the border in
(even bigger) droves because there's no border patrol.
Without the income tax, there is (almost) no money to pay for
ANYTHING the federal government does.
There are those, including many members of Congress, who are calling
for exactly that - fund the military and nothing else.
Be careful what you wish for: you might get it.
There's also the view held by many in Congress that the income tax
should be replaced by a national consumption or Sales Tax - e.g., the
Fair Tax
--
Barry Gold <bgold@labcats.org> wrote:
Roy wrote:
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree. Recent
topics
- Lets ignore the supreme court
- Lets ignore Congress
- Lets ignore the second amendment
- Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with: Lets ignore the 16th amendment and do
away with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support for that
one
Until the Social Security checks stop arriving. And the soldiers,
sailors, etc. stop getting paid. And all the national parks and
monuments close. And illegal aliens pour across the border in
(even bigger) droves because there's no border patrol.
Without the income tax, there is (almost) no money to pay for
ANYTHING the federal government does.
There are those, including many members of Congress, who are calling
for exactly that - fund the military and nothing else.
Be careful what you wish for: you might get it.
On 8/6/2023 1:42 PM, Rick wrote:
"Stuart O. Bronstein" wrote in message
news:XnsB0585FD908A5Cavocatstuyahoofr@130.133.4.11...
Barry Gold <bgold@labcats.org> wrote:
Roy wrote:
From some of the comments bouncing around, I disagree.Â
Recent topics
-Â Lets ignore the supreme court
-Â Lets ignore Congress
-Â Lets ignore the second amendment
-Â Lets rule by executive order
I am going to go with:Â Lets ignore the 16th amendment and
do away with income tax. Bet I could get a lot of support
for that one
Until the Social Security checks stop arriving. And the
soldiers, sailors, etc. stop getting paid. And all the national
parks and monuments close. And illegal aliens pour across the
border in (even bigger) droves because there's no border
patrol.
Without the income tax, there is (almost) no money to pay for
ANYTHING the federal government does.
There are those, including many members of Congress, who are
calling for exactly that - fund the military and nothing else.
Be careful what you wish for: you might get it.
There's also the view held by many in Congress that the income
tax should be replaced by a national consumption or Sales Tax -
e.g., the Fair Tax
I was trying to make the point that there are crazies at every
point across the political spectrum. They all want some change
that the pesky constitution and other laws is preventing.
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