In misc.legal.moderated, on Mon, 5 Jun 2023 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT), micky <
misc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
If the grand jury procedures are secret so as not to embarrass a person, >possibly innocent, who is being investigated, how does that work when >everyone knows who is being investigated, and it drags on for most of a
year? It seems like "secrecy" either doesn't exist or does no good.
There must be some cases where little evidence is ever brought forth,
and no convincing evidence, and in those cases, it seems like it would
be better for an innocent person if everyone knew what the grand jury
knows. If the public doesn't know, they may still think he's guilty as
sin but clever enough to hide the proof of what he's done. Has any >investigated person ever tried to make grand jury proceedings public,
when he thought the facts would make him look better than the public's >imagination would?
As my luck would have it, someone on MSNBC talked about what seems to be subject of the first paragraph above, and he said that there are covert
grand juries and overt grand juries. So it would follow that when
everyone knows how is being investigated, who is being presented to the
grand jury for indictment, it's an overt grand jury!
Unfortunately, to say the least, when I google overt grand juries
there is not a single hit. In fact, in the first hit, overt does not
appear, it's been changed to over.
So what was the guy talking about? Have any of you ever heard of an
overt grand jury? (and btw, there are no hits for covert grand jury
either.)
This points out, in the age of aggressive lying, how easy it would be,
and probably has been, to make up things and claim they have already
happened. Like the race riot in Altoona Pa. where 31 people were
lynched. Or the fire in Paris where 1/3 of the city burnt down.
Neither of these happened. I just made them up on the spot, but there
are people with motives to make up stories. How are we going to
protect ourselves from this.
And are there overt grand juries, perhaps without being named overt?
--
I think you can tell, but just to be sure:
I am not a lawyer.
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