• an indictment and a preliminary hearing

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 21:33:25 2023
    In tonight's episode of Perry Mason at the preliminary hearing someone confesses. Perry says, See? And Berger says, "No, he didn't do it"
    meaning that the defendant did. "You know how much effort we put in
    before an indictment."

    This implies there was both an indictment and a preliminary hearing. I
    don't know of the poster from California is still here, but didn't he
    say it was one or the other?

    And yet I know Perry Mason cannot be wrong. A dilemma.

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Feb 8 12:02:44 2023
    micky <misc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In tonight's episode of Perry Mason at the preliminary hearing
    someone confesses. Perry says, See? And Berger says, "No, he
    didn't do it" meaning that the defendant did. "You know how much
    effort we put in before an indictment."

    This implies there was both an indictment and a preliminary
    hearing. I don't know of the poster from California is still
    here, but didn't he say it was one or the other?

    And yet I know Perry Mason cannot be wrong. A dilemma.

    Perry Mason was in Los Angeles. The purpose of a preliminary hearing
    is where the defendant is asked to plead guilty or not. An indictment
    is differente, and can be returned by a grand jury, or the DA can get
    one without the grand jury by filing an "information."


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  • From Barry Gold@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Thu Feb 9 21:57:51 2023
    On 2/8/2023 12:02 PM, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
    micky <misc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In tonight's episode of Perry Mason at the preliminary hearing
    someone confesses. Perry says, See? And Berger says, "No, he
    didn't do it" meaning that the defendant did. "You know how much
    effort we put in before an indictment."

    This implies there was both an indictment and a preliminary
    hearing. I don't know of the poster from California is still
    here, but didn't he say it was one or the other?

    And yet I know Perry Mason cannot be wrong. A dilemma.

    Perry Mason was in Los Angeles. The purpose of a preliminary hearing
    is where the defendant is asked to plead guilty or not. An indictment
    is differente, and can be returned by a grand jury, or the DA can get
    one without the grand jury by filing an "information."

    AFAIK, in California the DA go to a grand jury and get an indictment, or
    can file an "information" and then there will be a preliminary hearing.
    One way or another, the DA has to convince somebody (grand jury or
    judge) that there is "probable cause" to believe the defendant committed
    the crime.

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