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On 19 Jul 2022, Rudy Canoza <
notgenx33@gmail.com> posted some news:G%ABK.33027$
8f2.31348@fx38.iad:
https://scholarship.law.umn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3318&contex
t=mlr
Proved and not in rational dispute. Once again, Hartung is wrong and
full of shit.
According to Bullshit Alito, the Due Process Clause only protects
rights which are “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and
tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.”
But the right to bodily integrity meets *both* of those criteria.
That was quite an effort to try and connect a "right" to clearly stated elements several times removed. While provoking thought, it did little
else except trip bullshit filters.
I suspect you and your source are confused.
Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) is a rare, infrequently studied
and highly secretive condition in which there is a mismatch between the
mental body image and the physical body. Subjects suffering from BIID have
an intense desire to amputate a major limb or severe the spinal cord in
order to become paralyzed.
One could apply the same to transgender confused humanoids who hate
their natural selves, and believe they would be better off identifying as something they can never ever possibly be. You could certainly apply it
to abortion and those seeking it using the same logic as the cite.
Everything Bullshit Alito wrote about abortion and common law is
factually wrong. The common law didn't even consider that abortion
could occur prior to "quickening," when typically is no earlier than
15 weeks. Some states in the 19th century did have laws against
abortion, but if the embryo/fetus was removed prior to 15 weeks, *it
was not considered abortion*.
Yes we are aware of your animosity towards Justice Alito.
You are aware that abortion was primarily used in the 19th century to
maintain prostitutes? If they got knocked up, they got the scrape. If
they got infected because of it and died, they got replaced and the body
dumped in a pauper's grave.
It was pretty much the same context in the 19th century, except it's
cloaked as a "right" today. Now in modern times it's used as a murderous instrument of convenience to rid one's self of the result of sexual irresponsibility - just like 19th century prostitutes.
Progressive doesn't mean we've progressed much, does it?
Of course, Hartung *still* has not shown, and *cannot* show, that an embryo/fetus at *any* stage of development has a "right" to remain in
the uterus of a woman who doesn't want it there. And he'll never be
able to show it, which is why he keeps trying to shift his burden of
proof and tell others to prove a negative, i.e. "prove that it doesn't
have that right." That's not how it works.
Obviously Mr. Hartung has clearly stated a reasonsble and clear position,
which is why you are constantly attacking it from all directions looking
for a weakness or crumb to exploit. So far you get an "F".
The first Magna Carta was sealed on 15 June 1215 by King John at
Runnymede. King John and the barons met there to agree a deal to end the
civil war. The text was re-negotiated on four occasions over the next
decade; and almost all its clauses have since been repealed.
It has no legal standing in the United States of America.
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