It was 5-3 because Gorsuch wasn’t involved with the original
hearing and didn’t vote. But even if he had, the Fifth Amendment
still would have lost 5-4 yet again. It’s not enough just to
keep hold of the seat that Justice Scalia occupied.
Kennedy is unreliable in too many instances when given a choice
between more power for the government over the individual or
less. The other four liberals are lost causes, apparently never
having seen a case of bigger government which they couldn’t
celebrate. We need a real majority on the Supreme Court with
conservative, small government principles in their hearts or
these erosions of fundamental rights will continue.
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A number of sane people around the commentariat have been up in
arms over the recent decision handed down by the Supreme Court
in Murr v. Wisconsin. And with very, very good reason. We’ve
dealt with this case here before as it’s played out through the
lower courts, but as a refresher it deals with the situation
encountered by Donna Murr and her siblings in Wisconsin. The
family owned two small parcels of land along the St. Croix
River. They had a cabin on one of the lots and the adjoining
property was left vacant as an investment. But when they
attempted to finally sell the vacant lot in 2004 they learned
that the state had changed the rules on them, making it
impossible to sell the land to anyone other than the county
unless they combined the properties and relinquished the entire
package.
SEE ALSO: Remember that California single payer plan? Yeah…
never mind.
The property in question had been valued at $400K. The county –
the only entity legally entitled to buy it – offered them $40K.
Because the state, through changes in laws which did not apply
when the family acquired the land, had completely gutted its
worth, the Murr family sued to be properly compensated under the
Takings Clause. With this week’s decision, those hopes are
dashed. Eric Boehm at Reason explains what this is doing to the
rights of property owners.
When governments issue regulations that undermine the value of
property, bureaucrats don’t necessarily have to compensate
property holders, the Supreme Court ruled Friday…
On 06/24/2017 06:34 PM, TRUMP! wrote:
It was 5-3 because Gorsuch wasn’t involved with the original
hearing and didn’t vote. But even if he had, the Fifth Amendment
still would have lost 5-4 yet again. It’s not enough just to
keep hold of the seat that Justice Scalia occupied.
Kennedy is unreliable in too many instances when given a choice
between more power for the government over the individual or
less. The other four liberals are lost causes, apparently never
having seen a case of bigger government which they couldn’t
celebrate. We need a real majority on the Supreme Court with
conservative, small government principles in their hearts or
these erosions of fundamental rights will continue.
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The unfortunate reality is that five of the nine justices of the Supreme Court believe that the words of the Constitution change in meaning,
depending upon what they wish those words to say.
To take the property required imminent domain....
To take the value of it, is to take the property. Either way the State confiscated $360,000 worth of property and/or avoided paying fair value.
They may have invested in that land to sell and send a kid to
college.....
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
To take the property required imminent domain....
To take the value of it, is to take the property. Either way the State
confiscated $360,000 worth of property and/or avoided paying fair value.
If BMUS writes it you know its a lie.
First of all, the state isn't involved other than
providing the legal system in which a local govt
can operate and disputes can be resolved.
Second, the local govt is not violating the Constitution
by having zoning laws and restrictions on development and land
use.
On 06/25/2017 04:14 PM, jim wrote:
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
If BMUS writes it you know its a lie.To take the property required imminent domain....
To take the value of it, is to take the property. Either way the State >>> >>confiscated $360,000 worth of property and/or avoided paying fair value. >> >
First of all, the state isn't involved other than
providing the legal system in which a local govt
can operate and disputes can be resolved.
State constitutions and laws and court decisions can't violate the U.S. constitution.
Second, the local govt is not violating the Constitution
by having zoning laws and restrictions on development and land
use.
They do violate the constitution with their local land use laws all the
time
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
On 06/25/2017 04:14 PM, jim wrote:
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
StateTo take the property required imminent domain....
To take the value of it, is to take the property. Either way the
value.confiscated $360,000 worth of property and/or avoided paying fair
If BMUS writes it you know its a lie.
First of all, the state isn't involved other than
providing the legal system in which a local govt
can operate and disputes can be resolved.
State constitutions and laws and court decisions can't violate the U.S.
constitution.
The Constitution says clearly that govts are allowed
to deprive people of life, liberty and property
as long as its done with due process.
On 06/26/2017 10:26 PM, jim wrote:
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
On 06/25/2017 04:14 PM, jim wrote:
#BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
StateTo take the property required imminent domain....
To take the value of it, is to take the property. Either way the
value.confiscated $360,000 worth of property and/or avoided paying fair
If BMUS writes it you know its a lie.
First of all, the state isn't involved other than
providing the legal system in which a local govt
can operate and disputes can be resolved.
State constitutions and laws and court decisions can't violate the U.S. >>> >>constitution.
The Constitution says clearly that govts are allowed
to deprive people of life, liberty and property
as long as its done with due process.
And you deleted the text that explained the fact that the State didn't
use due process..... they stole the property without using "imminent domain".
They can't simply steal it when the Constitution has the way to do
something like that spelled out as the constitutional way to do it.
if their law
said the owner can't sell to anyone else
then it had to say that the
sale to the government was to be done "within the imminent
domain legal structure" then I'd have no quibble with it.
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